[Using Sakai] Graphics in forum messages..

Matthew Jones matthew at longsight.com
Fri Aug 17 19:19:05 PDT 2012


Hi Gregory,

The workflow you're describing in the second case is usually the
recommended/most supported one. You click the image icon, click browse
server and upload or pick a file already uploaded to the system. This
generates an <img> tag around the image and is better for a variety of
reasons than inline encoded images. [1] Older browsers (even just a few
years ago) didn't even support encoded images at all, and some of those
browsers are still used. (IE7 didn't at all, IE8 did but with a size limit)
They are also not cachable and not as easy to edit.

Some select browsers (notably Firefox) do allow you to paste in (ctrl-v)
the image (which is what I think you're describing) and it converts it as
you'd mentioned to a base64. For some some tools may go beyond the allowed
length for that text area. Many other browsers (Chrome, Safari, IE) by
default don't do anything when you try to paste in an image object.
However, It looks like there is a plugin for the CKEditor (the editor used
by default in 2.9+ versions of Sakai) which improves the image paste for
Firefox to upload to the regular resources are and create a standard <img>
tag and also claims to handle this for Chrome/Safari. This plugin was
developed a few months ago and I hadn't heard about it until I was
searching about this problem but it looks interesting for sure!
http://cksource.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=23646

There aren't too many users who have asked for this functionality that I
can remember, and nobody has created a jira (https://jira.sakaiproject.org)
as far as I find describing it. Though it looks like it would be a useful
feature, and I can create one for it. Sakai (as you may know) is community
source software, built up by volunteer contributions from people like you.
So generally for a change like this to get in, someone has to notice the
functionality is missing. Find or develop a method for implementing it,
contribute and test the code for the feature. There is no central
organization actually developing Sakai.

Also, I'm not sure which (if any) number was a typo in 19670's, but I'm
sure they'll have awesome graphics support in 17000 years!

[1]
[image: Inline image 1]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Gregory Guthrie <guthrie at mum.edu> wrote:

> I had a short forum message, it showed ~1000 characters, and inserted a
> small graphic (~1”x2), and when I  tried to post the message, got an error
> message that the message was too large, over 65K characters.****
>
> ** **
>
> The insert/edit image icon seems to allow one to set properties on an
> existing image, but not to insert a new one? I say this because it shows an
> odd piece of text ( Lorem ipsum dolor ...) which is not editable, or
> replaceable, and a bunch of blank properties, but ctl-v does nothing.****
>
> ** **
>
> Looking at the Source view, it appears that it encodes images as byte
> streams, and thus even a small image is not supported. Any way around this?
> Seems rather 19670‘s to have a forum without good support for any graphics,
> better to use a Yahoo or Google Email forum perhaps?****
>
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