[Using Sakai] Assignments: revert to "old style" due-date entry?

[Matthew Jones]

Any options you see on the demos for things like displaying multiple
calendars are easily configured in the ckeditor.launch.js. We recently made
a change to display the month and year menus. (
http://jqueryui.com/datepicker/#dropdown-month-year -
https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-27733)

However the form field is something that's on the templates for each
individual tool separate from this popup. That would require loading
something like the masked input plugin (
http://digitalbush.com/projects/masked-input-plugin) or momentjs to verify
the result during an an onblur event. That seems like it would be a big
change across every tool that has a date popup.

I'm not disagreeing that it wouldn't be nice, just saying I can't think of
a way it would be fast/easy to do since that field isn't controlled by the
popup and in most places it's not something that was added as a new
component to the framework, rather just put directly into the template
(velocity,
jsf, rsf) directly.


On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:38 PM, John Ansorge <ansorgej at ohsu.edu> wrote:

>  I agree with Bryan, if there is error handling the field should not be
> disabled.  I know if our Sakai “power users” can’t edit that box directly
> I’m going to hear about it from them right away when we upgrade to 10 in a
> few weeks.  We usually import content from a previous term and update all
> the dates, so the due dates for Assignments and Tests and Quizzes are
> usually more than a month in advance.  So that means that every date would
> require many clicks as Tyler and Norman noted.
>
>
>
> If nothing else, the date picker should show several months as in this
> example: http://jqueryui.com/datepicker/#multiple-calendars  That way
> there’s a much better chance that the date you’re looking for is visible
> without clicking to advance the month.
>
>
>
> Of course, the effort to unify the date picker across tools is still very
> welcome!
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
> *From:* sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Bryan Holladay
> *Sent:* Monday, September 08, 2014 1:41 PM
> *To:* Norman Danner
> *Cc:* sakai-user
> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Assignments: revert to "old style" due-date
> entry?
>
>
>
> We had a discussion with this datepick a few weeks back and the reason was
> for i18n and text parsing. Here's the thread:
>
>
>
> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2014-July/028262.html
>
>
>
> It may be something we should discuss as a modification to the DatePicker.
> I personally think that as long as there is error handling for bad date
> inputs, the input field should not be disabled. If someone doesn't know the
> correct input form, then they can use the DatePicker. But I'm not going to
> make any changes w/o input and consensus from the community. You may even
> want to ask the PMC (
> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-pmc)
>
>
>
> -Bryan
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu>
> wrote:
>
> I did a bit of playing around on Snow Leopard (the only OS I have easy
> access to right now).
>
> On Firefox 32 and Safari 5.1.10, the text fields are completely disabled,
> regardless of clicking in and out.
>
> On Chrome, just as Bryan says, the text field can be enabled by clicking
> in and out and in again.
>
> Does anyone know the intended behavior?  I.e., are the text fields for
> dates intended to be editable?
>
>         - Norman
>
>
>
> On 9/8/14 1:45 PM, Bryan Holladay wrote:
>
> It seems that the text field is disabled at first. Then when you click out
> of the text box and back in, the text field is then editable (at least in
> Chrome). I believe the reason the text field is supposed to be disabled is
> since there are too many ways to input data (especially accounting for
> i18n) and the date picker is a way to make it more uniform.
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Tyler Beason <tbeason at mail.bradley.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Bryan,
>
> Within Assignments, we are not able to use text entry to input dates.
> Using the popup date picker is forced, the text box becomes grayed out.
> We've had lots of professors complaining about this, and this could be what
> Norman is referring to.
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler
>
> Tyler Beason
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>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com>
> wrote:
>
> There's no way to revert the date picker in the Assignments settings
> page. You can just write the dates in with your keyboard in the text field
> instead of using the popup calendar.
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu>
> wrote:
>
>
> Short version:  is there a way to make Assignments in Sakai 10 revert
> back to the "old style" of date entries via menus?
>
> Long version:  I recently upgraded to Sakai 10, and see that Assignments
> now has a clever calendar widget for entering the due date (and open
> date, etc.).  But in fact, I find it *really* annoying; it takes twice
> as long to enter the various dates as before, when I could type just
> about everything.  Even worse, the sliders for setting the time don't
> release if you happen to drag outside the widget, as is usually the case
> for an 11:55pm due-time.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
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> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science - Wesleyan University
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