[Using Sakai] Assignments: revert to "old style" due-date entry?

[John Ansorge]

I agree with Bryan, if there is error handling the field should not be disabled.  I know if our Sakai “power users” can’t edit that box directly I’m going to hear about it from them right away when we upgrade to 10 in a few weeks.  We usually import content from a previous term and update all the dates, so the due dates for Assignments and Tests and Quizzes are usually more than a month in advance.  So that means that every date would require many clicks as Tyler and Norman noted.

If nothing else, the date picker should show several months as in this example: http://jqueryui.com/datepicker/#multiple-calendars  That way there’s a much better chance that the date you’re looking for is visible without clicking to advance the month.

Of course, the effort to unify the date picker across tools is still very welcome!

-John

From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Holladay
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 1:41 PM
To: Norman Danner
Cc: sakai-user
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Assignments: revert to "old style" due-date entry?

We had a discussion with this datepick a few weeks back and the reason was for i18n and text parsing. Here's the thread:

http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2014-July/028262.html

It may be something we should discuss as a modification to the DatePicker. I personally think that as long as there is error handling for bad date inputs, the input field should not be disabled. If someone doesn't know the correct input form, then they can use the DatePicker. But I'm not going to make any changes w/o input and consensus from the community. You may even want to ask the PMC (http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-pmc)

-Bryan

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu<mailto:ndanner at wesleyan.edu>> wrote:
I did a bit of playing around on Snow Leopard (the only OS I have easy access to right now).

On Firefox 32 and Safari 5.1.10, the text fields are completely disabled, regardless of clicking in and out.

On Chrome, just as Bryan says, the text field can be enabled by clicking in and out and in again.

Does anyone know the intended behavior?  I.e., are the text fields for dates intended to be editable?

        - Norman


On 9/8/14 1:45 PM, Bryan Holladay wrote:
It seems that the text field is disabled at first. Then when you click out
of the text box and back in, the text field is then editable (at least in
Chrome). I believe the reason the text field is supposed to be disabled is
since there are too many ways to input data (especially accounting for
i18n) and the date picker is a way to make it more uniform.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Tyler Beason <tbeason at mail.bradley.edu<mailto:tbeason at mail.bradley.edu>>
wrote:
Bryan,

Within Assignments, we are not able to use text entry to input dates.
Using the popup date picker is forced, the text box becomes grayed out.
We've had lots of professors complaining about this, and this could be what
Norman is referring to.

Thanks,
Tyler

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On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com<mailto:holladay at longsight.com>>
wrote:
There's no way to revert the date picker in the Assignments settings
page. You can just write the dates in with your keyboard in the text field
instead of using the popup calendar.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu<mailto:ndanner at wesleyan.edu>>
wrote:

Short version:  is there a way to make Assignments in Sakai 10 revert
back to the "old style" of date entries via menus?

Long version:  I recently upgraded to Sakai 10, and see that Assignments
now has a clever calendar widget for entering the due date (and open
date, etc.).  But in fact, I find it *really* annoying; it takes twice
as long to enter the various dates as before, when I could type just
about everything.  Even worse, the sliders for setting the time don't
release if you happen to drag outside the widget, as is usually the case
for an 11:55pm due-time.

Thanks!

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