[Using Sakai] Assignments: revert to "old style" due-date entry?

Thu Sep 11 10:12:35 PDT 2014

This makes me think that there is probably an easy way to set the 
initial time to 11:55pm, which would eliminate (for me) a significant 
part of the hassle of not being able to do keyboard entry.  Is there?  I 
haven't written a webapp in ages, and I'm not very familiar with many of 
the technologies in use by Sakai, but given a pointer, I can probably 
figure things out.

	- Norman

On 9/8/14 6:51 PM, Matthew Jones wrote:
> Any options you see on the demos for things like displaying multiple
> calendars are easily configured in the ckeditor.launch.js. We recently made
> a change to display the month and year menus. (
> http://jqueryui.com/datepicker/#dropdown-month-year -
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-27733)
>
> However the form field is something that's on the templates for each
> individual tool separate from this popup. That would require loading
> something like the masked input plugin (
> http://digitalbush.com/projects/masked-input-plugin) or momentjs to verify
> the result during an an onblur event. That seems like it would be a big
> change across every tool that has a date popup.
>
> I'm not disagreeing that it wouldn't be nice, just saying I can't think of
> a way it would be fast/easy to do since that field isn't controlled by the
> popup and in most places it's not something that was added as a new
> component to the framework, rather just put directly into the template
> (velocity,
> jsf, rsf) directly.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:38 PM, John Ansorge <ansorgej at ohsu.edu> wrote:
>
>>   I agree with Bryan, if there is error handling the field should not be
>> disabled.  I know if our Sakai “power users” can’t edit that box directly
>> I’m going to hear about it from them right away when we upgrade to 10 in a
>> few weeks.  We usually import content from a previous term and update all
>> the dates, so the due dates for Assignments and Tests and Quizzes are
>> usually more than a month in advance.  So that means that every date would
>> require many clicks as Tyler and Norman noted.
>>
>>
>>
>> If nothing else, the date picker should show several months as in this
>> example: http://jqueryui.com/datepicker/#multiple-calendars  That way
>> there’s a much better chance that the date you’re looking for is visible
>> without clicking to advance the month.
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course, the effort to unify the date picker across tools is still very
>> welcome!
>>
>>
>>
>> -John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
>> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Bryan Holladay
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 08, 2014 1:41 PM
>> *To:* Norman Danner
>> *Cc:* sakai-user
>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Assignments: revert to "old style" due-date
>> entry?
>>
>>
>>
>> We had a discussion with this datepick a few weeks back and the reason was
>> for i18n and text parsing. Here's the thread:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2014-July/028262.html
>>
>>
>>
>> It may be something we should discuss as a modification to the DatePicker.
>> I personally think that as long as there is error handling for bad date
>> inputs, the input field should not be disabled. If someone doesn't know the
>> correct input form, then they can use the DatePicker. But I'm not going to
>> make any changes w/o input and consensus from the community. You may even
>> want to ask the PMC (
>> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/mailman/listinfo/sakai-pmc)
>>
>>
>>
>> -Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I did a bit of playing around on Snow Leopard (the only OS I have easy
>> access to right now).
>>
>> On Firefox 32 and Safari 5.1.10, the text fields are completely disabled,
>> regardless of clicking in and out.
>>
>> On Chrome, just as Bryan says, the text field can be enabled by clicking
>> in and out and in again.
>>
>> Does anyone know the intended behavior?  I.e., are the text fields for
>> dates intended to be editable?
>>
>>          - Norman
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/8/14 1:45 PM, Bryan Holladay wrote:
>>
>> It seems that the text field is disabled at first. Then when you click out
>> of the text box and back in, the text field is then editable (at least in
>> Chrome). I believe the reason the text field is supposed to be disabled is
>> since there are too many ways to input data (especially accounting for
>> i18n) and the date picker is a way to make it more uniform.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Tyler Beason <tbeason at mail.bradley.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Bryan,
>>
>> Within Assignments, we are not able to use text entry to input dates.
>> Using the popup date picker is forced, the text box becomes grayed out.
>> We've had lots of professors complaining about this, and this could be what
>> Norman is referring to.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tyler
>>
>> Tyler Beason
>> Graduate Assistant, Instructional Design & Learning Technologies (IDLT)
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There's no way to revert the date picker in the Assignments settings
>> page. You can just write the dates in with your keyboard in the text field
>> instead of using the popup calendar.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Short version:  is there a way to make Assignments in Sakai 10 revert
>> back to the "old style" of date entries via menus?
>>
>> Long version:  I recently upgraded to Sakai 10, and see that Assignments
>> now has a clever calendar widget for entering the due date (and open
>> date, etc.).  But in fact, I find it *really* annoying; it takes twice
>> as long to enter the various dates as before, when I could type just
>> about everything.  Even worse, the sliders for setting the time don't
>> release if you happen to drag outside the widget, as is usually the case
>> for an 11:55pm due-time.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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>> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science - Wesleyan University
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