[samigo-team] Settings: Score of Zero for Non-Submission

Thu Feb 16 07:37:07 PST 2012

I have not seen that work consistently in Sakai.

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On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Henry, Roger James <rjhenry at indiana.edu>wrote:

>  Quick question – wouldn’t deleting the content of the field and saving
> result in a null value for that field? And, would’nt the null be pushed to
> the GB?****
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> *From:* Mathieu Plourde [mailto:mathieu at udel.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:33 AM
> *To:* Jacqueline Mai Krueger
> *Cc:* Henry, Roger James; Samigo Team
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> *Subject:* Re: [samigo-team] Settings: Score of Zero for Non-Submission***
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> Another feature to think about in this context would be the possibility of
> reverting a score to a null, or and empty cell. In most tools in Sakai,
> reverting to a null is impossible, let the grading logic demands it. Nulls
> are not calculated in the final grade, which is something some instructors
> prefer.
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> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Jacqueline Mai Krueger <
> jamai at stanford.edu> wrote:****
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> Hi Roger,
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> Thanks for your insights. I will add the ability to set the score for
> non-submissions to the proposed re-work of the Settings page, so that
> instructors can specify the value as they're setting up the assessment. I
> think we should still keep this capability on the Total Scores page in the
> event someone wants to change the value as they are adjusting scores and
> not force them to go to Settings page to do so.
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> Best,
> Jackie
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> Henry, Roger James wrote: ****
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> Okay, so we’re solving this the way we do with the Assignments tool. At
> least it’s being addressed. ****
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> I’m still wondering if this couldn’t be part of the setup of an
> assessments. The time when (I would say) most faculty decide the penalty
> for non-submission is **during the setup**. Why force people to wait till
> after the submissions come in? ****
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> I can see why it’s been designed this way – to match existing
> functionality. However, the functionality in Assignments is based on the
> correct presumption that instructors will grade assignments after they’re
> submitted – there’s no auto-grading of assignment questions. It makes sense
> that the penalty takes place **during** the (necessarily) manual grading
> activity.  ****
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> But for Samigo, the normal expectation is that we’re setting this
> assessment up to grade automatically. For the most part, there’s no
> expectation of a grading process to **follow** the submission of the
> assessment. The more correct presumption would be that instructors would
> set the penalty for non-submission during setup of the assessment, not
> after the hard due date (whether Due- or Retract date). ****
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> *From:* Ward, Lynn E.
> *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2012 10:36 AM
> *To:* Henry, Roger James; Samigo Team
> *Subject:* Re: [samigo-team] Settings: Score of Zero for Non-Submission **
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> This option is available in Samigo 2.9.  Here's a screenshot from qa3: ***
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> *From: *rogerh <rjhenry at indiana.edu>
> *Date: *Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:24:54 +0000
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> *Subject: *[samigo-team] Settings: Score of Zero for Non-Submission ****
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> Hi all, ****
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> Based on a question from a faculty user here at IU Bloomington, I’m
> wondering if there’s ever been a discussion around the option (via
> settings) for giving a score of zero to students who have no submission by
> the due date (or the retract date, depending). ****
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> Our user points out that, in a case where the scores are pushed to the
> Gradebook, if an instructor wishes to enter scores of zero for
> non-submission (s)he must go into Samigo and manually enter zero (via
> Adjustment) for each student. That’s a whole lot more clicking than folks
> want to do. ****
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> I’m not suggesting that we change the current default of leaving the score
> as null for non-submission. ****
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> But what about creating an option that appears -when an assessment is
> linked to the Gradebook – to set the score to zero for non-submission? ***
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> If this has already been discussed elsewhere, I’d be happy to know the
> outcome(s) of that discussion. ****
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