[sakai2-tcc] FYI - Fwd: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Reporting Out and Call Schedule > Sakai Teaching and Learning Group

Josh Baron Josh.Baron at marist.edu
Thu Jun 20 11:44:37 PDT 2013


+1 on the importance of the "unfunded mandates" issue as I agree this is 
vital to address.

Although this is early thinking, I believe that members of the T&L group 
may be positioned within their organizations in ways that would allow them 
to help seek resources for development work.  At least speaking for 
myself, I would be ready and more than willing to bring proposals forward 
at Marist for new capabilities, enhancements, etc. as part of the work 
that the T&L group might do in collaboration with TCC and others.

Another area that did not come up much on our call but I think is 
important is some dialog between groups around the effort needed and 
technical challenges that any specific work might involve.  Having an 
understand of the programming challenges, security issues, etc. that some 
capability might involve is going to be important for everyone to 
understand and appreciate if we want to collaborate.

Josh

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron



From:   "Berg, Alan" <A.M.Berg at uva.nl>
To:     "josh.baron at marist.edu" <josh.baron at marist.edu>, 
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Date:   06/20/2013 02:35 PM
Subject:        Re: [sakai2-tcc] FYI - Fwd: [DG: Teaching & Learning] 
Reporting Out and Call Schedule > Sakai Teaching and Learning Group



A very constructive conversation.

I will try my best to make the next meeting and with Neal act as a link 
with the TCC. I expect others in the TCC will embrace this positive 
movement foward and also attend.

I would like also to reinforce Neals point about unfunded mandates. 
Enhanced functionality requires sustainability and resources. Lets push in 
the same direction. 


Regards Alan,

Sent from somewhere interesting via a Mobile device.



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Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] FYI - Fwd: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Reporting 
Out and Call Schedule > Sakai Teaching and Learning Group 
From: Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu> 
To: Neal Caidin <nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org> 
CC: "sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org 2" 
<sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org>,"sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org" 
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Neal: Thanks for posting this to the TCC list (you beat me to it!) and for 
being on the call, your comments and insights were very helpful in moving 
the discussion forward. 

All, 

Besides sharing the outcomes from the call with the TCC (and others on 
this list), I had also wanted share an observation in hopes of avoiding 
any misunderstandings or miscommunications which I think we all know can 
more easily occur when we're not all together in a face-to-face setting. 

If you look over the notes from the call you'll see that we had a very 
broad ranging discussion that was primarily around how we might 
collaborate with the TCC more.  The group on the call include folks who 
have been involved with Sakai almost since the beginning to very new 
participants who's first experience was a couple of weeks ago at the Open 
Apereo conference.  As a result, you'll see comments and suggestions that 
may include things which we've tried before and which did not work well or 
about strategies that are not likely to be embraced by our open source 
community.  My fear is that by just scanning such notes that some could 
get the wrong impression about the group's interests and plans.   

To address this I'd like to encourage all of us to actively question and 
comment on points that are coming up in discussions on lists so that we 
can dialog about them as means to avoid misunderstandings.  As Neal noted, 
it would be great to have more TCC folks on our calls (we'll be holding a 
series of weekly calls on Wednesdays, details below) but I realize that 
this may be impractical so I'll be sure to continue to provide email 
updates.  If there is a point in time when the TCC would like to schedule 
a call with the T&L group just let me know. 

Thanks, 

Josh 

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron 



From:        Neal Caidin <nealcaidin at sakaifoundation.org> 
To:        "sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org 2" 
<sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org>, 
Date:        06/20/2013 12:14 PM 
Subject:        [sakai2-tcc] FYI - Fwd: [DG: Teaching & Learning] 
Reporting Out and Call Schedule > Sakai Teaching and Learning Group 
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Hi TCC,

I attended this call, please see below. Your ears may be burning :-). I'll 
try to attend these and can keep you informed, but you may want to 
consider more active participation. There could be an opportunity here.

Cheers, 
Neal


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>
Date: Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Subject: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Reporting Out and Call Schedule > Sakai 
Teaching and Learning Group
To: pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org, portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org, 
sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org


Colleagues, 

My thanks to the 13 or so folks who participated in our first Sakai 
Teaching and Learning (T&L) conference call following the Open Apereo 
conference.  It was great to hear voice who've not been involved in awhile 
as well as many new participants.  As I mentioned at the end of the call, 
I'm following up to update the larger community as well as suggest plans 
for a regular conference call. 

CALL SUMMARY:  Much of the call continued the dialog that was started at 
the conference on how the T&L group might collaborate more with other 
groups in the Sakai community, particularly the Technical Coordination 
Committee or TCC.  There was some review of past community efforts, for 
those who were newer to the community, around things such as "requirements 
gathering" which have had mixed success and some of the lessons that have 
been learned from those experiences.  In particular, the issue of 
"unfunded mandates" (i.e. bringing forward requirements without resources 
to support the development work) was noted as a concern.  This lead to 
some discussion of how the T&L group might be able to get involved in 
seeking resources from institutional decision makers.  A complete set of 
notes from the call can be found at: 
https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/PED/Wednesday+June+19+Call+Notes 


NEXT STEPS AND CALL SCHEDULE:  Although I recognize that folks are busy, 
I'm going to suggest that we plan for weekly calls over the next 1-2 
months as means to keep our momentum going and also help address the fact 
that I anticipate people being out over the summer for holidays, etc. 
Unless there are objections to this schedule, I'd suggest that we continue 
with the Wednesday from 2-3 PM Eastern Time day/time as it seemed to work 
for the majority of people. 

ACTION ITEM > Please reply back to me by Monday, June 24th if Wednesday 
from 2 - 3 PM Eastern Time does NOT work for you.  Based on what I hear 
I'll either confirm the call on Monday or suggest a new time. 

Finally, I have updated the Confluence Teaching and Learning wiki page to 
reflect our current work.  You can access this page at: 
https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/PED 

Thanks, Josh 

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron
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