[sakai2-tcc] Status of Websphere/DB2 support for 2.8.0

[May, Megan Marie]

Happy Tuesday fellow committee members,

       This weekend I heard back from Howard so I want to take a moment to update the committee.     At this time there are no plans for continued support of WAS and DB2 in future releases of Sakai as there has not been broad community adoption of Sakai on WAS and/or DB2.   If interest in WAS and DB2 becomes apparent, IBM will reconsider.    In regards to the options the TCC outlined, IBM favored the option that would provide the cleanest path for "re-inserting" WAS/DB2 support in the future should interest pick up.  He wanted to stress that IBM remains supportive of Sakai and shared that efforts right now are focused on providing a long term solution to issues regarding differences between the Oracle (Sun) JDK and IBM JDK (issues currently affecting clients running Sakai).      Makes perfect sense to me.

Are there members of the committee that would like to aid in crafting the communication to the community?
Megan

From: John Bush [mailto:john.bush at rsmart.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:48 PM
To: May, Megan Marie
Cc: Steve Swinsburg; sakai2-tcc Committee
Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] Status of Websphere/DB2 support for 2.8.0

i would just like to point out, and maybe this is something that could be worked in the messaging, that irrespective of this stuff moving out of sakai or not.  The efforts to port sakai to websphere/db2 did uncover many issues about database and servlet container portability in Sakai.  Even removing some of the specifics out of the code, still other changes would remain that make it easier to port in the future.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:37 PM, May, Megan Marie <mmmay at indiana.edu<mailto:mmmay at indiana.edu>> wrote:
It seems like there is consensus towards options 1 & 2.   Since 2 is 1 plus broad communication, we are at least at a place that is actionable!

I did find it interesting that many on the TCC preferred option 1.   One of the biggest challenges I see in the community these days is the lack of transparency.    I believe the TCC has an opportunity to lead by example and that an announcement such as this is realistic, pragmatic and open about what is going on is a great opportunity.    Chuck mentioned that we should be sure to steer clear of blame/shame and  I wholeheartedly agree that finger pointing gains us nothing.

Are there other concerns that I'm not thinking about?

Megan

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From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org> [mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>] On Behalf Of Steve Swinsburg
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I like #2. It gives us a path for future removal from 2.9+ should support not materialise.

regards,
Steve


On 17/03/2011, at 6:37 AM, csev wrote:

> Any public announcement *must* be gentle and neutral and in no way slanted to place andy blame or shame.
>
> Being nasty (even a little bit) reduces the likelyhood that this will get picked back up.
>
> /Chuck
>
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 3:48 AM, Seth Theriault wrote:
>
>> I like #2. We need a public announcement about WAS and DB2 support in
>> addition to anything we say in the (seldom read) release notes.
>> Perhaps Howard Baker will have an update for us on IBM's plans before
>> we send said announcement.
>>
>> Seth
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