[sakai2-tcc] We need a blog tool for Sakai 2.9

Thu Mar 3 07:14:04 PST 2011

My lucky day.  I get to agree with both Noah and David.

We shouldn't underestimate the potential positive impact of an "app store" on the release process.  App store installation would make indy tool releases / distribution / development much quicker.  With more installable tools the Sakai releases could focus much more on the core indispensable tools and kernel and so enable community development.  Current releases are held captive to the tool code that is slowest to be compatible with the latest release.

- Dave

David Haines
CTools Developer
Digital Media Commons
University of Michigan 
dlhaines at umich.edu

On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:32 AM, David Horwitz wrote:

> 
> 
>> We've been running away from decent package/feature/configuration management for years and it has caused significant pain and numerous concessions. It may be time to give it a proper treatment.
>> 
>> 
> 
> To also hijack the thread :-) I agree - the issue we have had is that
> while developers have expressed interest (Steve G even blogged about it)
> no one institution has put forward any resources to this.
> 
> Idea: How about we suggest the goal of the conference hackathon be an
> appstore proof of concept?
> 
> D
> 
> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Noah
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2011, at 9:14 AM, May, Megan Marie wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Steve, you've raised a really excellent point about needing replacement functionality.     Since you've offered to drive this process, I'd like to take you up on that :-)   
>>> 
>>> It sounds like a couple others may be interested in helping - perhaps a small subcommittee could tackle this?
>>> Megan 
>>> 
>>> Btw - I think the suggestion of a survey is an excellent idea.  I'm always in favor of data driven decision making :-) 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Fish
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:03 AM
>>> To: Jean-Francois Leveque
>>> Cc: sakai2-tcc Committee; Stuart Freeman
>>> Subject: Re: [sakai2-tcc] We need a blog tool for Sakai 2.9
>>> 
>>> Okay, I'm with you. I do need to start cutting some tags. It's an indie release already, so it's ready for tagging.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Adrian.
>>> 
>>> On 03/03/2011 10:01, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So far I think it's only relevant for 2.6 and 2.7, it will soon be for
>>>> 2.8 and later for 2.9.
>>>> 
>>>> AFAICT, inclusion into a release, local for 2.6, 2.7 or 2.8 or 
>>>> official for 2.9, most likely implies branching and tagging.
>>>> 
>>>> Please forgive me if I'm wrong or asking too early for 2.9.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> J-F
>>>> 
>>>> Adrian Fish a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't understand what you mean by clog only having trunk. How is 
>>>>> that relevant to it being in 2.9?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Adrian.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/03/2011 09:26, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I already need one for 2.8, and as soon as 2.8.0 is released, I will 
>>>>>> have to try a replacement for Blogger. I'd really like to choose one 
>>>>>> that will be in 2.9.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/CLOG/Home
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Only has trunk right now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/BW/Home
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Only has recent activity in trunk.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The first thing we want to know is if those projects want to go 
>>>>>> through the incubation process. It seems it's the case for both, but 
>>>>>> I'd like the current teams to answer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am happy to help this process, even if others are interested.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will welcome documentation about running those projects with Sakai 
>>>>>> 2.8.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> J-F
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve Swinsburg a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We've talked about this a lot but never actually got anywhere 
>>>>>>> except to pull Blogger from the release. Whilst I understand the 
>>>>>>> reason behind pulling an unsupported and dated tool, I do feel that 
>>>>>>> not having a replacement is a sad state to get in. It reduces the 
>>>>>>> feature set and makes Sakai as a product less competitive.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I want to reignite the discussion for getting a blog tool in our 
>>>>>>> sights for Sakai 2.9. We have time to get that tool through the 
>>>>>>> incubation process, whatever that is.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AFAIK there are two candidates, Clog, and BlogWow.
>>>>>>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/CLOG/Home
>>>>>>> https://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/BW/Home
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am happy to drive this process if no one else interested.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>> 
>>> --
>>> ==================================
>>> Adrian Fish
>>> Software Engineer
>>> Centre for e-Science
>>> Bowland Tower South C Floor
>>> Lancaster University
>>> Lancaster
>>> LA1 4YW
>>> email: a.fish at lancaster.ac.uk
>>> 
>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/YAFT/Yaft
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