[Using Sakai] Sakai & Canvas...

[Barbra Kerns]

Thank you for addressing this, Laura.  And, it is nice to meet you!

We have heard similar negative comments toward Sakai arise - both on and
off our campus.  We did our research into the LMS market, Sakai product,
and Sakai community, and came to similar conclusions that you have nicely
articulated.  We have defended Sakai to our campus constituents to dispel
fears of Sakai becoming obsolete.  We are continuing to evaluate our needs,
the LMS market, and what other systems may be coming in the future that may
displace the LMS.  And we are looking forward to the coming enhancements
that are currently being "staged" in Sakai.  Staying tuned!

Barb Kerns

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Barbra Kerns, M.S.Ed.
Center for Teaching Excellence & Learning
Director, Instructional Design & Learning Technologies
* Co-Chair, Teaching Technology Task Force
* Part-time Instructor, Teacher Education
Bradley University, Peoria, IL
brk at bradley.edu



On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Laura Gekeler <LGekeler at nd.edu> wrote:

> Hi Gregory,
>
> I'll take a shot at this topic. You probably don't know me but I was
> elected to the Apereo Foundation Board this past year to serve a 3 yr term.
> I thought I'd start with that "full disclosure" since Sakai is a project
> under the Apereo Foundation umbrella. So, here's what I know -
>
> Canvas was chosen as an exploratory platform by a new consortium called
> "Unizin."
>
> Unizin's members *do* include Indiana University and University of
> Michigan, who were among Sakai's founding members. In that respect, the
> Canvas rep's statements are true. Stanford is not in that group, so that
> part isn't true at all. However, Stanford is piloting Canvas this winter
> quarter
> <https://coursework.stanford.edu/access/content/group/UX%20Managed%20Content/gateway/spotlights/canvasPilot.html>
> (2015).
>
> It's the Canvas sales rep's job to sell (hosting subscriptions).  The
> sales rep doesn't sell Canvas itself, since, like Sakai, Canvas has been
> licensed as open source. Though *unlike* Sakai which is open in totality
> and from inception, only Canvas "basic," or Canvas "light" is freely
> downloadable and installable on its own.
>
> Is there a future in Sakai now that Indiana University and the University
> of Michigan no longer contribute to Sakai? You betcha. The torch has been
> passed; the Sakai community is solid.
>
> Bigger questions, as the Sakai community continues to evolve and grow, is
> how do we as a community leap-frog over Canvas? You know the list in Sakai
> called "Edit Tools" that contains all the tools native to Sakai as well as
> all the 3rd party extensions like Kaltura and Piazza, etc? Canvas has that
> list too, with an eye-popping icon representing it. So, the tool list
> itself was an idea that came from Sakai, The icons? The iPhone, right?
>
> To your question, the Sakai community of innovators is alive and well. We
> *are* in a staging period, which makes us look like not much is
> happening, but behind the scenes, it is.
>
> Laura
>
>
> Laura Gekeler
> LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
> Teaching and Learning Technologies
> University of Notre Dame
> P:(1) 574-631-2402
>
>
> On 10 March 2015 at 08:31, Gregory Guthrie <guthrie at mum.edu> wrote:
>
>> I got an interesting comment from a Canvas LMS representative;
>>
>>
>>
>> "Sakai is such a cool concept but I do wonder where it will end up in the
>> future, as most it's founding schools (and the schools putting resources
>> into developing it) have now left and come to Canvas (U of Indiana, U of
>> Michigan, Stanford)..."
>>
>>
>>
>> I wondered what level of reality this statement has?
>>
>>
>>
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