[Using Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists

[Neal Caidin]

So far, all positive responses to merging. Feel free to keep the comments
coming.

Assuming we move forward with the merge, we need a name choice. Sounds like
there is a desire to move away from "pedagogy". The new list will be @
apereo.org, so we will need to include sakai as part of the name. Some
initial ideas

sakai-user at apereo.org   (but just make sure it also includes the Teaching
and Learning folks)
sakai-teachlearn at apereo.org
sakai-questions at apereo.org

What do you think? Remember that the audience is broader than Teaching and
Learning, though that is the most active part. Sakai user is broad enough,
but is it too vague?  That's why I came up with sakai-questions.  If you
are a techie, you will know, or soon learn, that sakai-dev is the place to
be, so sakai-questions might make it clear that is the place to go with any
general Sakai questions. On the other hand, that loses the Teaching and
Learning flavor, which is definitely nice to highlight and our most likely
way to recruit or attract more active community participation.

I don't have the answers on this one. Nothing is jumping out at me as a
clear favorite.

Brainstorm?



On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Marilyn Dispensa <mdispensa at ithaca.edu>
wrote:

>  I’m in favor of merging the lists.    Good idea.
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> *From:* sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baron
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:53 PM
> *To:* Laura Gekeler
> *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server;
> pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org; pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of
> Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists
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> Little history here...
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> The pedagogy list dates back to the start of Sakai I believe (before I got
> involved at least).  Over the years its use has ranged from mostly
> administrative, planning calls, etc., to more strategic discussions around
> teaching and learning issues.  I believe the Using Sakai list was created,
> more recently, to give people a place to ask more functional questions
> about how a tool works, etc.
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> In terms of my thoughts...
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> I think merging is best as I tend to end up posting to both all of the
> time not knowing who is on one but not the other.  I would suggest that we
> consider referring to this as the "teaching and learning list" or some
> similar terms rather than pedagogy as over the years there have been
> discussions around the term "pedagogy" being confusing to some in other
> parts of the world where the term is not used much or because it can mean
> different things to different people.  I think teaching and learning is
> clearer (I actually think we tried to change the name at one point but hit
> a technical issue and weren't able to do so).
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> FYI, Josh
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> Joshua Baron
> Senior Academic Technology Officer
> Marist College
> Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
> (845) 575-3623 (work)
> Twitter: JoshBaron
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> From:        Laura Gekeler <lgekeler at nd.edu>
> To:        "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server" <
> sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org" <
> pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
> Date:        01/14/2015 02:46 PM
> Subject:        Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of
> Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists
> Sent by:        pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
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> The question about Resources & Import from Site was from me, so I'll take
> a stab at why I chose that list - my question wasn't directly related to
> pedagogy but more of a "how is this supposed to work"  question. I'd be
> relieved not to have to spend time thinking in depth about which group is
> more likely to be interested in my question/comment/topic...
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> I subscribe to both groups and would be in favor of merging them.
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> Laura
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> Laura Gekeler
> LMS Professional //Concurrent Instructor
> University of Notre Dame
> P:574-631-2402
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> On 14 January 2015 at 13:14, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org> wrote:
> [to sakai-user and pedagogy]
>
> Hi All,
>
> We are in the process of a move from the current Collab email server to
> using Apereo Google Groups. During the move I am wondering if it makes
> sense to merge sakai-user and pedagogy into one list. Fewer lists means
> simpler to pick the right list to which to post.
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> Stats:
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> # of subscribers to sakai-user : 694
> # of subscribers to pedagogy : 500
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> # of subscribers overlapping (exist in both sakai-user and pedagogy): 245
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> It looks to me like the majority of posts to pedagogy are administrative.
> Meeting announcements, webinar announcements, conference announcements are
> common. Occasional question like "*question about auto created groups
> when using the Lessons tool and Forums". *
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> Sakai-user has more questions on it, I think. "Resources management &
> Import from Site", Making it so that the word "Sakai" does not appear on
> any onscreen test, "adding another wiki tool".  Etc. Still announcements
> there too , but seems like more questions.
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> Sakai-user archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-user/
> Pedagogy archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/pedagogy/
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> Please think about it and let me know what you think (feel free to copy
> both lists. It could make it more of a conversation.)
>
> Thanks,
> Neal
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