[Using Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists

[Marilyn Dispensa]

I'm in favor of merging the lists.    Good idea.


From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Josh Baron
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 2:53 PM
To: Laura Gekeler
Cc: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server; pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org; pedagogy-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists

Little history here...

The pedagogy list dates back to the start of Sakai I believe (before I got involved at least).  Over the years its use has ranged from mostly administrative, planning calls, etc., to more strategic discussions around teaching and learning issues.  I believe the Using Sakai list was created, more recently, to give people a place to ask more functional questions about how a tool works, etc.

In terms of my thoughts...

I think merging is best as I tend to end up posting to both all of the time not knowing who is on one but not the other.  I would suggest that we consider referring to this as the "teaching and learning list" or some similar terms rather than pedagogy as over the years there have been discussions around the term "pedagogy" being confusing to some in other parts of the world where the term is not used much or because it can mean different things to different people.  I think teaching and learning is clearer (I actually think we tried to change the name at one point but hit a technical issue and weren't able to do so).

FYI, Josh

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron



From:        Laura Gekeler <lgekeler at nd.edu<mailto:lgekeler at nd.edu>>
To:        "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org%20Server>" <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>>, "pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>" <pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org<mailto:pedagogy at collab.sakaiproject.org>>,
Date:        01/14/2015 02:46 PM
Subject:        Re: [DG: Teaching & Learning] Possible merge of Sakai-user and Pedagogy lists
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The question about Resources & Import from Site was from me, so I'll take a stab at why I chose that list - my question wasn't directly related to pedagogy but more of a "how is this supposed to work"  question. I'd be relieved not to have to spend time thinking in depth about which group is more likely to be interested in my question/comment/topic...

I subscribe to both groups and would be in favor of merging them.

Laura


Laura Gekeler
LMS Professional //Concurrent Instructor
University of Notre Dame
P:574-631-2402


On 14 January 2015 at 13:14, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org<mailto:neal.caidin at apereo.org>> wrote:
[to sakai-user and pedagogy]

Hi All,

We are in the process of a move from the current Collab email server to using Apereo Google Groups. During the move I am wondering if it makes sense to merge sakai-user and pedagogy into one list. Fewer lists means simpler to pick the right list to which to post.

Stats:

# of subscribers to sakai-user : 694
# of subscribers to pedagogy : 500

# of subscribers overlapping (exist in both sakai-user and pedagogy): 245

It looks to me like the majority of posts to pedagogy are administrative. Meeting announcements, webinar announcements, conference announcements are common. Occasional question like "question about auto created groups when using the Lessons tool and Forums".

Sakai-user has more questions on it, I think. "Resources management & Import from Site", Making it so that the word "Sakai" does not appear on any onscreen test, "adding another wiki tool".  Etc. Still announcements there too , but seems like more questions.

Sakai-user archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-user/
Pedagogy archives - http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/pedagogy/

Please think about it and let me know what you think (feel free to copy both lists. It could make it more of a conversation.)

Thanks,
Neal







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