[Using Sakai] Instructor submission after accept-until date

Fri Feb 13 08:24:46 PST 2015

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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu> wrote:

> I have submitted a feature request on Jira.
>
>         - Norman Danner
>
>
> On 2/12/15 3:23 PM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>
>> A fix is most likely to happen if a Jira is opened.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Laura Gekeler <LGekeler at nd.edu> wrote:
>>
>>  Ugly. No argument about it. I would never 'sell' that to my faculty any
>>> other way than as a bug. Let's get it fixed!
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>
>>> Laura Gekeler
>>> LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
>>> Teaching and Learning Technologies
>>> University of Notre Dame
>>> P:(1) 574-631-2402
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 February 2015 at 12:11, Ziegler, Jeff <ziegler at umich.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>  That option is specific to the student, however, it does not override
>>>> the
>>>> assignment's overall Accept Until date so you would still need to reset
>>>> that date in order for the student to see the resubmit screen.
>>>> Arguably a
>>>> bug.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Laura Gekeler <LGekeler at nd.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What is the option at the bottom of the grading page for a student who
>>>> didn't submit in time? Is this accept until date specific for this
>>>> student
>>>> or does it open it for the entire group to whom the assignment was
>>>> given in
>>>> the first place? We're on ANI Sakai 2.9.3.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <AssignmentGradingException1.png>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Laura Gekeler
>>>> LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
>>>> Teaching and Learning Technologies
>>>> University of Notre Dame
>>>> P:(1) 574-631-2402
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12 February 2015 at 09:26, Ziegler, Jeff <ziegler at umich.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  An easy workaround is for the instructor to go the grading UI for the
>>>>> student's "non-submisssion" and attach the emailed file ("Attachments
>>>>> to
>>>>> Return with Grade").  The instructor can then assign a grade, and when
>>>>> it
>>>>> is released to the student the student will see their grade in GB (if
>>>>> the
>>>>> assignment is linked to GB), and their returned file and grade in
>>>>> Assignments.
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Could someone please explain the rationale behind the fact that I, as
>>>>>> the instructor, cannot submit an assignment on behalf of a student
>>>>>>
>>>>> after
>>>>>
>>>>>> the accept-until date?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Typical use-case:  student screws up, convinces me that I should
>>>>>> accept
>>>>>> the late submission by e-mail.  Student has not submitted anything at
>>>>>> that point, so "resubmission" is irrelevant.  I know the "right"
>>>>>> response is to tell the student to take his/her lumps, but sometimes I
>>>>>> agree that there are extenuating circumstances.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to me that since I am the instructor, I should be able to
>>>>>> submit on behalf of the student at any time without having to go
>>>>>>
>>>>> through
>>>>>
>>>>>> the contortions I do right now (i.e., change the accept-until date to
>>>>>> some later date *for everyone*, submit for the student, then change
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> accept-until date back).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or, am I just missing some configuration?  I'm using Sakai 10.3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        - Norman Danner
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Norman Danner - ndanner at wesleyan.edu - http://ndanner.web.wesleyan.
>>>>>> edu
>>>>>> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science - Wesleyan University
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>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Jeff Ziegler
>>>>> ITS Teaching and Learning Group
>>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Piloting Canvas? 24/7 support is available to instructors:
>>>>>          • Access live chat through the Help menu inside Canvas
>>>>>          • Call Canvas Support at (844) 329-3130
>>>>>          • Login to Canvas at Michigan for self-help materials
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>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jeff Ziegler
>>>> ITS Teaching and Learning Group
>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Piloting Canvas? 24/7 support is available to instructors:
>>>> • Access live chat through the Help menu inside Canvas
>>>> • Call Canvas Support at (844) 329-3130
>>>> • Login to Canvas at Michigan for self-help materials
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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