[Using Sakai] Instructor submission after accept-until date

Norman Danner ndanner at wesleyan.edu
Thu Feb 12 18:11:47 PST 2015


I have submitted a feature request on Jira.

	- Norman Danner

On 2/12/15 3:23 PM, Neal Caidin wrote:
> A fix is most likely to happen if a Jira is opened.
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Laura Gekeler <LGekeler at nd.edu> wrote:
>
>> Ugly. No argument about it. I would never 'sell' that to my faculty any
>> other way than as a bug. Let's get it fixed!
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> Laura Gekeler
>> LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
>> Teaching and Learning Technologies
>> University of Notre Dame
>> P:(1) 574-631-2402
>>
>>
>> On 12 February 2015 at 12:11, Ziegler, Jeff <ziegler at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> That option is specific to the student, however, it does not override the
>>> assignment's overall Accept Until date so you would still need to reset
>>> that date in order for the student to see the resubmit screen.  Arguably a
>>> bug.
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Laura Gekeler <LGekeler at nd.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the option at the bottom of the grading page for a student who
>>> didn't submit in time? Is this accept until date specific for this student
>>> or does it open it for the entire group to whom the assignment was given in
>>> the first place? We're on ANI Sakai 2.9.3.
>>>
>>>
>>> <AssignmentGradingException1.png>
>>> ​​
>>>
>>>
>>> Laura Gekeler
>>> LMS Administrator //Concurrent Instructor
>>> Teaching and Learning Technologies
>>> University of Notre Dame
>>> P:(1) 574-631-2402
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 February 2015 at 09:26, Ziegler, Jeff <ziegler at umich.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> An easy workaround is for the instructor to go the grading UI for the
>>>> student's "non-submisssion" and attach the emailed file ("Attachments to
>>>> Return with Grade").  The instructor can then assign a grade, and when it
>>>> is released to the student the student will see their grade in GB (if the
>>>> assignment is linked to GB), and their returned file and grade in
>>>> Assignments.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 11, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Norman Danner <ndanner at wesleyan.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Could someone please explain the rationale behind the fact that I, as
>>>>> the instructor, cannot submit an assignment on behalf of a student
>>>> after
>>>>> the accept-until date?
>>>>>
>>>>> Typical use-case:  student screws up, convinces me that I should accept
>>>>> the late submission by e-mail.  Student has not submitted anything at
>>>>> that point, so "resubmission" is irrelevant.  I know the "right"
>>>>> response is to tell the student to take his/her lumps, but sometimes I
>>>>> agree that there are extenuating circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to me that since I am the instructor, I should be able to
>>>>> submit on behalf of the student at any time without having to go
>>>> through
>>>>> the contortions I do right now (i.e., change the accept-until date to
>>>>> some later date *for everyone*, submit for the student, then change the
>>>>> accept-until date back).
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, am I just missing some configuration?  I'm using Sakai 10.3.
>>>>>
>>>>>        - Norman Danner
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Norman Danner - ndanner at wesleyan.edu - http://ndanner.web.wesleyan.edu
>>>>> Department of Mathematics and Computer Science - Wesleyan University
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>>>> "New != better.  Different != better.  Only better == better."
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jeff Ziegler
>>>> ITS Teaching and Learning Group
>>>> University of Michigan
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Piloting Canvas? 24/7 support is available to instructors:
>>>>          • Access live chat through the Help menu inside Canvas
>>>>          • Call Canvas Support at (844) 329-3130
>>>>          • Login to Canvas at Michigan for self-help materials
>>>>
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>>>
>>> "New != better.  Different != better.  Only better == better."
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Jeff Ziegler
>>> ITS Teaching and Learning Group
>>> University of Michigan
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Piloting Canvas? 24/7 support is available to instructors:
>>> • Access live chat through the Help menu inside Canvas
>>> • Call Canvas Support at (844) 329-3130
>>> • Login to Canvas at Michigan for self-help materials
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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