[Using Sakai] Multiple Group-Only access to forums

[Kenneth Litwak]

Hi Bryan,

   My school is on this version:  Sakai - 2.9.1.6 - Sakai 2.9.1 (Kernel
1.3.1)-

I had already seen what you are talking about and did it partially.  That
is, I have three groups, and made most people, including "Student," "None,"
and each group "Contributor."

     However, it sounds like for this week I needed to create three totally
separate forums so that each group could have its own forum where the group
is the only thing that is "contributor."

  If so, I have twelve weeks of threaded discussions students will be
doing, and that means, what, 36(!) separate gradebook items to cover all
these forums?  That sounds like a nightmare for computing final grades.  I
always use points for everything and since I've not ever found a way to
make Sakai add up points to give me a total, I have to export the gradebook
to Excel and do it myself.  Having 36 instead of twelve assignments to
process, is going to be really hard to manage, especially if I need to
track who is really missing a score versus who posted in a different forum
that week.  Do you have any suggestions for managing, preferably avoiding,
this?  It seems like a very large headache to manage to me when this is so
easy to do, relatively speaking, in other tools.  Thanks.

Ken




Kenneth D. Litwak, Ph.D.
Azusa Pacific University
680 E. Alosta Ave.
Azusa, CA 91702
626-815-6000 x3148
klitwak at apu.edu


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 5:37 AM, Bryan Holladay <holladay at longsight.com>wrote:

> You can create forums and topics that are specifically for a single group
> in Sakai.  As of 2.9.0+, there is a simpler way to achieve this through the
> UI [1], but if you are running an older version, you can still set it up
> manually.  All you have to do is go to the settings page for the forum or
> topic you want to lock down to a single group and select "None" for
> everyone's permission.  Then just find the group you want and set only that
> group's permission to "Contributor".  You probably don't want to remove the
> instructor permissions.
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
>
> [1] https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/MSGCNTR-231
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> Which version of Sakai are you on?
>>
>> If you don't know, you should probably be able to find it by looking at
>> the bottom of your Web page. I'm reasonably sure that this feature works in
>> both Sakai 2.8 and 2.9, but the user interface to configure is slightly
>> different.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Neal
>>
>>
>>
>> Neal Caidin
>> Sakai CLE Community Coordinator
>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> Skype: nealkdin
>> Twitter: ncaidin
>>
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>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Kenneth Litwak <klitwak at apu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>   In multiple learning management systems I have used before, such as
>> Blackboard, FIrstClass, and Moodle, I've been able to divide students into
>> groups and then have them respond to discussion forums by groups.  That
>> is,when a student goes to a discussion forum,
>> She posts such that only her group members can see her posts
>> She can only see posts by her group members.
>>
>> I do not want to have weekly discussions that all students participate in
>> as one big group. It makes discussions too hard to follow, manage, or grade.
>>
>>   The online help shows how to make groups and I have made the groups
>> contributors to the forums but I see no evidence that the three groups that
>> I have defined are being separated. How can I accomplish this?  I need to
>> know right away, so I'd appreciate guidance as soon as possible please.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> Kenneth D. Litwak, Ph.D.
>> Azusa Pacific University
>> 680 E. Alosta Ave.
>> Azusa, CA 91702
>> 626-815-6000 x3148
>> klitwak at apu.edu
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