[Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site

Steve Swinsburg steve.swinsburg at gmail.com
Mon Dec 16 04:02:51 PST 2013 

This appears to be broken in trunk proper, not just for Igor. Nightly trunk
has this issue. http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8082/portal



On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jim Mezzanotte
<jmezzanotte at anisakai.com>wrote:

> Hi Igor,
>
> Just to confirm--have you tried adding a portfolio site via "Worksite
> Setup" in the Admin Workspace? You should be able to add a portfolio
> site that way, regardless of other permissions.
>
> In this case, I don't think the "!user.template" realm applies.
> Instead, you would want to edit template realms for specific user
> account types, such as "!user.template.maintain" for the "maintain"
> account type.
>
> I'm not sure what version of Sakai you're using, but there is a bug in
> 2.9.0 (https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22994) that is fixed
> for 2.9.1 (not sure if it applies to your situation).
>
> Best,
> Jim Mezzanotte
> Asahi Net International
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Igor Novopashenny
> <igor at escience.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I tried to check these permissions in
> > !site.template
> > !site.user
> > !user.template
> > But nothing happens.
> > I still have no opportunity to add a portfolio site-
> > I've tried as Administrator, user, registered user.
> >
> > Regards Igor
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] Im Auftrag von Jim
> > Mezzanotte
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. November 2013 20:41
> > An: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > Betreff: Re: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
> >
> > Hi Igor,
> >
> > In Sakai 2.9, new permissions were added to control whether a user can
> add
> > project or portfolio sites:
> >
> > site.add.project
> > site.add.portfolio
> >
> > With these new permissions, there are now four permissions that control
> site
> > creation in My Workspace:
> >
> > site.add
> > site.add.course
> > site.add.project
> > site.add.portfolio
> >
> > So it looks like you haven't been granted the "site.add.portfolio"
> > permission.
> >
> > Best,
> > Jim Mezzanotte
> > Asahi Net International
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM,
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> >>    1. Re: [Building Sakai] Sakai Trunk - Bug in Draft
> >>       Announcements? (Neal Caidin)
> >>    2. Can't add Portfolio site (Igor Novopashenny)
> >>    3. Re: Can't add Portfolio site (Ward, Lynn E.)
> >>    4. Re: Problem/Fixes to Lessons (Charles Hedrick)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:30:27 -0500
> >> From: Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] Sakai Trunk - Bug in Draft
> >>         Announcements?
> >> To: Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu>
> >> Cc: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server"
> >>         <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>,   Sakai QA
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> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Here is the Jira - https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-25413
> >>
> >> ? Neal
> >>
> >>
> >> Neal Caidin
> >> Sakai Community Coordinator
> >> neal.caidin at apereo.org
> >> Skype: nealkdin
> >> Twitter: ncaidin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 27, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi, Neal:
> >> >
> >> > I will definitely consider this as a bug. Please go ahead and file a
> > JIRA.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > - Zhen
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> > wrote:
> >> > Just double checking on this. If I don't hear anything back, I'll
> open a
> > Jira.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Neal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > I made a short, about a minute, video to show what I think might be a
> > bug in trunk when using Draft Announcements. I do not see an existing
> Jira
> > showing this problem.
> >> >
> >> > Summary:  If you create an Announcement as draft (aka hide
> > announcement), a default start date is automatically assigned, though the
> > draft announcement behaves as expected in that it has the word Draft in
> > front and is dimmed out (for instructor). If you edit the announcement,
> it
> > shows a default of ?Specify Dates? instead of ?Hide (draft mode?)?. If
> you
> > click the Cancel button, all is well. But if you click on the Save
> button,
> > without having made any changes, the announcement switches to Specify
> Dates
> > and is available.
> >> >
> >> > Is this expected behavior? Or should I open a Jira?
> >> >
> >> > http://www.screencast.com/t/tMV7ORjvpHsv
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Neal
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Neal Caidin
> >> > Sakai Community Coordinator
> >> > neal.caidin at apereo.org
> >> > Skype: nealkdin
> >> > Twitter: ncaidin
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:56:04 +0100
> >> From: "Igor Novopashenny" <igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
> >> Subject: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
> >> To: <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> >> Message-ID: <007e01ceeb91$8fb48200$af1d8600$@escience.uni-bremen.de>
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> >>
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I have jsut installed the new version of Sakai from trunk.
> >>
> >> I use it to test my Russian translations.
> >>
> >> If go  to worksitesetup and want to define new site I get only 2
> >> possibilities - to create a project or a course site-
> >>
> >> But there is no item Portfolio site.
> >>
> >> Where (how) I can change it?
> >>
> >> Regards Igor
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:19:26 +0000
> >> From: "Ward, Lynn E." <leward at iu.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
> >> To: "'Igor Novopashenny'" <igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>,
> >>         "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org"
> >>         <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> <0F0FED349579D645A8863B7821C30AED341B7F74 at IU-MSSG-MBX107.ads.iu.edu>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Are you logged in as an admin?  I believe that creating portfolio sites
> > was restricted to admins as of 2.9.
> >>
> >> Lynn
> >>
> >> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> >> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Igor
> >> Novopashenny
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:56 AM
> >> To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> >> Subject: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >> I have jsut installed the new version of Sakai from trunk.
> >> I use it to test my Russian translations.
> >> If go  to worksitesetup and want to define new site I get only 2
> >> possibilities - to create a project or a course site- But there is no
> item
> > Portfolio site.
> >> Where (how) I can change it?
> >> Regards Igor
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> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:08:55 -0500
> >> From: Charles Hedrick <hedrick at rutgers.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Problem/Fixes to Lessons
> >> To: Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu>
> >> Cc: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org"
> >>         <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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> >> I talked with Marshall offline. Apparently what he was interested in
> doing
> > was annotating the student comments. He?s concerned that they may say
> things
> > that are wrong, and other students may not realize it. He may be able to
> > accomplish some of his needs by editing the student comments and adding
> his
> > own annotations in a different color. The instructor can edit or delete
> any
> > student comment.
> >>
> >> On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Earlier today Josh Baron posted that the T&L is looking for feedback
> on
> > enhancements to the Lessons tool. While not exactly enhancements (they're
> > more like bug fixes and fixes to serious design flaws), the note below
> > describes three serious problems I recently ran into with the Lessons
> tool.
> > Since our support staff here has been preoccupied with trying to retrieve
> > the lost data, I am posting a slightly edited transcript of my initial
> > problem report.
> >> >
> >> > ---- Transcript begins here -----
> >> >
> >> > I've added a Lessons page to my course site and authorized it to allow
> > addition of student content to be used as an electronic portfolio of
> student
> > work. The students must add a page for each week's material, and they
> must
> > view the other students' portfolios and make comments. For ease of
> > description call the first-level page I created "the root page," each
> > student's first-level page, "first-level" (on these pages they create
> links
> > to their weekly entries, so the first-level page acts as the student's
> table
> > of contents), and each weekly entry (student's second-level pages),
> "weekly
> > entry."
> >> >
> >> > Here are the problems I'm having:
> >> > I want to be able to grade weekly entries (both content and comments)
> > separately. But Sakai seems to be only allowing grading of each student's
> > comments in its entirety. In other words, on the root page where I've
> > authorized addition of student content, clicking "Edit" opens a window
> where
> > I can create Gradebook entries for both student content and comments.
> This
> > creates a button to "Show a grading pane" on the root page where students
> > content was authorized. But if I click through to the first-level and
> weekly
> > entry pages, the grading button is no longer present; there is no way to
> > grade each student's individual comments individually. How can one grade
> > each comment individually?
> >> > The above description applies only to comments students make about
> >> > other students' pages: by authorizing students to post comments,
> >> > comments on all levels of the hierarchy are enabled: root page,
> >> > first-levels, and weekly entries, although grading is only enabled
> >> > on the root page . But this is still better than what happens for
> >> > the pages students actually create and submit for grading. Here,
> >> > when on the root page I select the Edit button for the block of
> >> > student contributions, a window opens up with a checkbox next to
> >> > "Create gradebook entries for these items" and a text box next to
> >> > "Maximum points." But when I check the box and enter maximum points,
> >> > Sakai returns an error message. Unfortunately I can't report it here
> >> > because of problem #3. But the gist of the message was that I was
> >> > not allowed to add grading to student content, "most likely because
> >> > a gradebook had not yet been added to the site" (which was untrue).
> >> > Further accidental investigation (#3 below) suggests that
> >   t
> >>  his was due to the fact that students had already created several
> pages.
> > How can one add grading for student content that already exists?
> >> > In preparing #2 above, I went back to the site and tried to replicate
> > the error message. I checked the box, entered a Maximum points, and hit
> > return, thinking this would yield the error message that had appeared
> every
> > time before. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but the entire section
> of
> > student contributions disappeared. This seems to be because the default
> > button on this window is to delete the entire section of student pages,
> > which is what apparently happened. To try to fix this, I went back to the
> > the root page and added another section for student content, but the
> > original content (including my instructions on how to use the Lessons
> tool)
> > did not come back. So how can one recover this lost content?
> >> > Comment. If my assessment of what happened with #3 is correct, this is
> > an awful failure of user interface design. In other places Sakai's
> > hand-holding goes to absurd lengths to prevent accidental mistakes (e.g.
> > from Resources select Actions > Edit Details > Select URL (for copying),
> and
> > every time a window pops up telling the user to remember to press Ctrl-C
> to
> > copy the URL, with the user then having to press the OK button and then
> go
> > back and hit Ctrl-C; it would be much more efficient to simply put text
> > above the Details box saying, "Position your cursor in the box, and they
> > press ctrl-A, followed by ctrl-C"). But here in the lessons tool, where
> > students could have (and my students actually did) put in weeks of work,
> the
> > default action (by pressing "Return") erases everything without any
> warning!
> > How often does one delete the entire section of student contributions
> that
> > deletion should be the default action? Don't "Update" or "Cancel" make
> more
> > sense?
> >> >
> >> > ------- End of transcript -------
> >> >
> >> > As I said, the local support staff has focused on restoring the
> > students' work and has not yet begun to address the three issues
> mentioned
> > above. Consequently the issues, their interpretation, and diagnoses are
> > preliminary and somewhat conjectural. Nonetheless, whatever really is
> going
> > on needs to be addressed.
> >> >
> >> > If anyone can help by offering advice on how to address any of these
> > issues, I'd appreciate that too.
> >> >
> >> > Sincerely,
> >> > Marsh Feldman
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