[Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
Jim Mezzanotte
jmezzanotte at anisakai.com
Mon Dec 9 16:02:07 PST 2013
Hi Igor,
Just to confirm--have you tried adding a portfolio site via "Worksite
Setup" in the Admin Workspace? You should be able to add a portfolio
site that way, regardless of other permissions.
In this case, I don't think the "!user.template" realm applies.
Instead, you would want to edit template realms for specific user
account types, such as "!user.template.maintain" for the "maintain"
account type.
I'm not sure what version of Sakai you're using, but there is a bug in
2.9.0 (https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-22994) that is fixed
for 2.9.1 (not sure if it applies to your situation).
Best,
Jim Mezzanotte
Asahi Net International
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Igor Novopashenny
<igor at escience.uni-bremen.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> I tried to check these permissions in
> !site.template
> !site.user
> !user.template
> But nothing happens.
> I still have no opportunity to add a portfolio site-
> I've tried as Administrator, user, registered user.
>
> Regards Igor
>
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> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] Im Auftrag von Jim
> Mezzanotte
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. November 2013 20:41
> An: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
> Betreff: Re: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
>
> Hi Igor,
>
> In Sakai 2.9, new permissions were added to control whether a user can add
> project or portfolio sites:
>
> site.add.project
> site.add.portfolio
>
> With these new permissions, there are now four permissions that control site
> creation in My Workspace:
>
> site.add
> site.add.course
> site.add.project
> site.add.portfolio
>
> So it looks like you haven't been granted the "site.add.portfolio"
> permission.
>
> Best,
> Jim Mezzanotte
> Asahi Net International
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM,
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>> 3. Re: Can't add Portfolio site (Ward, Lynn E.)
>> 4. Re: Problem/Fixes to Lessons (Charles Hedrick)
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 09:30:27 -0500
>> From: Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] Sakai Trunk - Bug in Draft
>> Announcements?
>> To: Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu>
>> Cc: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org Server"
>> <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, Sakai QA
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>> Thanks.
>>
>> Here is the Jira - https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-25413
>>
>> ? Neal
>>
>>
>> Neal Caidin
>> Sakai Community Coordinator
>> neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> Skype: nealkdin
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>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Zhen Qian <zqian at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi, Neal:
>> >
>> > I will definitely consider this as a bug. Please go ahead and file a
> JIRA.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > - Zhen
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> wrote:
>> > Just double checking on this. If I don't hear anything back, I'll open a
> Jira.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Neal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
> wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I made a short, about a minute, video to show what I think might be a
> bug in trunk when using Draft Announcements. I do not see an existing Jira
> showing this problem.
>> >
>> > Summary: If you create an Announcement as draft (aka hide
> announcement), a default start date is automatically assigned, though the
> draft announcement behaves as expected in that it has the word Draft in
> front and is dimmed out (for instructor). If you edit the announcement, it
> shows a default of ?Specify Dates? instead of ?Hide (draft mode?)?. If you
> click the Cancel button, all is well. But if you click on the Save button,
> without having made any changes, the announcement switches to Specify Dates
> and is available.
>> >
>> > Is this expected behavior? Or should I open a Jira?
>> >
>> > http://www.screencast.com/t/tMV7ORjvpHsv
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Neal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Neal Caidin
>> > Sakai Community Coordinator
>> > neal.caidin at apereo.org
>> > Skype: nealkdin
>> > Twitter: ncaidin
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:56:04 +0100
>> From: "Igor Novopashenny" <igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
>> Subject: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
>> To: <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>
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>> Hi!
>>
>> I have jsut installed the new version of Sakai from trunk.
>>
>> I use it to test my Russian translations.
>>
>> If go to worksitesetup and want to define new site I get only 2
>> possibilities - to create a project or a course site-
>>
>> But there is no item Portfolio site.
>>
>> Where (how) I can change it?
>>
>> Regards Igor
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>> From: "Ward, Lynn E." <leward at iu.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
>> To: "'Igor Novopashenny'" <igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>,
>> "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org"
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>> Are you logged in as an admin? I believe that creating portfolio sites
> was restricted to admins as of 2.9.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>> From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Igor
>> Novopashenny
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:56 AM
>> To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> Subject: [Using Sakai] Can't add Portfolio site
>>
>> Hi!
>> I have jsut installed the new version of Sakai from trunk.
>> I use it to test my Russian translations.
>> If go to worksitesetup and want to define new site I get only 2
>> possibilities - to create a project or a course site- But there is no item
> Portfolio site.
>> Where (how) I can change it?
>> Regards Igor
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>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:08:55 -0500
>> From: Charles Hedrick <hedrick at rutgers.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Problem/Fixes to Lessons
>> To: Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu>
>> Cc: "sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org"
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>> I talked with Marshall offline. Apparently what he was interested in doing
> was annotating the student comments. He?s concerned that they may say things
> that are wrong, and other students may not realize it. He may be able to
> accomplish some of his needs by editing the student comments and adding his
> own annotations in a different color. The instructor can edit or delete any
> student comment.
>>
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:41 PM, Marshall Feldman <marsh at uri.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Earlier today Josh Baron posted that the T&L is looking for feedback on
> enhancements to the Lessons tool. While not exactly enhancements (they're
> more like bug fixes and fixes to serious design flaws), the note below
> describes three serious problems I recently ran into with the Lessons tool.
> Since our support staff here has been preoccupied with trying to retrieve
> the lost data, I am posting a slightly edited transcript of my initial
> problem report.
>> >
>> > ---- Transcript begins here -----
>> >
>> > I've added a Lessons page to my course site and authorized it to allow
> addition of student content to be used as an electronic portfolio of student
> work. The students must add a page for each week's material, and they must
> view the other students' portfolios and make comments. For ease of
> description call the first-level page I created "the root page," each
> student's first-level page, "first-level" (on these pages they create links
> to their weekly entries, so the first-level page acts as the student's table
> of contents), and each weekly entry (student's second-level pages), "weekly
> entry."
>> >
>> > Here are the problems I'm having:
>> > I want to be able to grade weekly entries (both content and comments)
> separately. But Sakai seems to be only allowing grading of each student's
> comments in its entirety. In other words, on the root page where I've
> authorized addition of student content, clicking "Edit" opens a window where
> I can create Gradebook entries for both student content and comments. This
> creates a button to "Show a grading pane" on the root page where students
> content was authorized. But if I click through to the first-level and weekly
> entry pages, the grading button is no longer present; there is no way to
> grade each student's individual comments individually. How can one grade
> each comment individually?
>> > The above description applies only to comments students make about
>> > other students' pages: by authorizing students to post comments,
>> > comments on all levels of the hierarchy are enabled: root page,
>> > first-levels, and weekly entries, although grading is only enabled
>> > on the root page . But this is still better than what happens for
>> > the pages students actually create and submit for grading. Here,
>> > when on the root page I select the Edit button for the block of
>> > student contributions, a window opens up with a checkbox next to
>> > "Create gradebook entries for these items" and a text box next to
>> > "Maximum points." But when I check the box and enter maximum points,
>> > Sakai returns an error message. Unfortunately I can't report it here
>> > because of problem #3. But the gist of the message was that I was
>> > not allowed to add grading to student content, "most likely because
>> > a gradebook had not yet been added to the site" (which was untrue).
>> > Further accidental investigation (#3 below) suggests that
> t
>> his was due to the fact that students had already created several pages.
> How can one add grading for student content that already exists?
>> > In preparing #2 above, I went back to the site and tried to replicate
> the error message. I checked the box, entered a Maximum points, and hit
> return, thinking this would yield the error message that had appeared every
> time before. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but the entire section of
> student contributions disappeared. This seems to be because the default
> button on this window is to delete the entire section of student pages,
> which is what apparently happened. To try to fix this, I went back to the
> the root page and added another section for student content, but the
> original content (including my instructions on how to use the Lessons tool)
> did not come back. So how can one recover this lost content?
>> > Comment. If my assessment of what happened with #3 is correct, this is
> an awful failure of user interface design. In other places Sakai's
> hand-holding goes to absurd lengths to prevent accidental mistakes (e.g.
> from Resources select Actions > Edit Details > Select URL (for copying), and
> every time a window pops up telling the user to remember to press Ctrl-C to
> copy the URL, with the user then having to press the OK button and then go
> back and hit Ctrl-C; it would be much more efficient to simply put text
> above the Details box saying, "Position your cursor in the box, and they
> press ctrl-A, followed by ctrl-C"). But here in the lessons tool, where
> students could have (and my students actually did) put in weeks of work, the
> default action (by pressing "Return") erases everything without any warning!
> How often does one delete the entire section of student contributions that
> deletion should be the default action? Don't "Update" or "Cancel" make more
> sense?
>> >
>> > ------- End of transcript -------
>> >
>> > As I said, the local support staff has focused on restoring the
> students' work and has not yet begun to address the three issues mentioned
> above. Consequently the issues, their interpretation, and diagnoses are
> preliminary and somewhat conjectural. Nonetheless, whatever really is going
> on needs to be addressed.
>> >
>> > If anyone can help by offering advice on how to address any of these
> issues, I'd appreciate that too.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Marsh Feldman
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