[Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test
Kara Stiles
kara.stiles at rsmart.com
Mon Oct 11 09:54:38 PDT 2010
In addition to adding comments, you could also adjust the score temporarily
using the adj column when grading (add .37 or something easy to recognize in
the GB), and then once you figure out whose assessment it is, you can
readjust the score.
It's also possible to change the default settings on those assessment types
as an admin so you can prevent this problem from happening again.
If you login as an admin and just go to the Tests & Quizzes tool in *any*
site, you can just make changes to the default settings for all assessment
types and these changes will be effective for all users (and you can even
remove them forever BUT you can't create new ones without some DB work, so
be careful). I'm writing this based on a memory I have of a conversation
with someone on the Samigo team, so I hope the Samigo team will correct me
if I've confused something here.
Anyway, I'd suggest selecting ALL the "can be edited" checkboxes for the
assessment types. This way, you can still have your default settings for
each type, but at least each default setting will be editable by the
instructor.
Thanks,
Kara
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu> wrote:
> Warwick,
>
> Sorry, I should have noted that in order for that process to work you need
> to have grades from Tests and Quizzes reported to the Gradebook but
> unfortunately I believe the setting you need to turn that on is one of the
> settings that is not showing up since you've selected the "formative
> assessment" type. So, I don't think this method will work for you. I
> realize this must be frustrating as I know we had some similar issues until
> we moved the "assessment type" option to avoid confusion. The only other
> suggestion I can make is to "super user" in as each student (which you can
> do if you have system administrator access in Sakai) once you've posted
> these "comments" and check to see what comment was left for that student.
> This would also allow you to match comments to students but is obviously
> very time consuming.
>
> Outside of this, I think the next thing would be to see if you can make
> some changes to the DB to reveal the information you need. You may have
> better luck posting technical questions about things like the DB to the
> "Developers" or Dev list which you can subscribe to from
> http://sakaiproject.org/join-email-lists
>
> Sorry, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear.
>
> Josh
>
> -----------------------------
> Joshua Baron
> Senior Academic Technology Officer
> Marist College
> Poughkeepsie, New York 12601
> (845) 575-3623 (work)
> Twitter: JoshBaron
>
>
>
> From: Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com>
> To: Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>
> Cc: sakai-user <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "
> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org" <
> sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> Date: 10/10/2010 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in
> test
> Sent by: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Bleak!
>
> I'm trying to use your comment method, but nothing shows up in the
> Gradebook? I'm a little shaky on this stuff...
>
> -- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | *http://warwickchapman.com*<http://warwickchapman.com/>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Josh Baron <*Josh.Baron at marist.edu*<Josh.Baron at marist.edu>>
> wrote:
> Ah, yes, if you select a specific "assessment type" you will not get all of
> the exam configuration settings (purpose of the assessment type feature is
> to allow you to limit the number of configuration settings). This may be
> different with 2.7.1 but with 2.6.3 at least I don't believe you can change
> the assessment type once you've set it and created the exam. You may be
> able to make that change in the DB but I'm not myself on the deep technical
> side and thus couldn't advise you on that option.
>
> Josh
>
>
> -----------------------------
> Joshua Baron
> Senior Academic Technology Officer
> Marist College
> Poughkeepsie, New York 12601
> (845) 575-3623 (work)
> Twitter: JoshBaron
>
>
>
> From: Warwick Chapman <*warwickchapman at gmail.com*<warwickchapman at gmail.com>
> >
> To: Rob Coyle <*rcoyle at jhu.edu* <rcoyle at jhu.edu>>
> Cc: Josh Baron <*Josh.Baron at marist.edu* <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>>,
> sakai-user <*sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>>,
> "*sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>"
> <*sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> >
> Date: 10/10/2010 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in
> test
> Sent by: *sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Hi Rob
>
> Yes, we're using Samigo on 2.7.1 and we have that setting as well, but for
> whatever reason (perhaps because I used the Formative Assessment template
> instead of Timed Test) I do not see the "Grading" section under Settings.
>
> -- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | *http://warwickchapman.com*<http://warwickchapman.com/>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Rob Coyle <*rcoyle at jhu.edu*<rcoyle at jhu.edu>>
> wrote:
> Not sure I fully caught what tool you are using specifically, or if this is
> instance related. We are on 2.6.4 and using Samigo Test and Quizzes. We have
> a Setting under Grading:
>
> Students' Identities:
>
> - Students' identities can be seen by graders
>
> - Anonymous grading only
>
>
>
> *Robert M. Coyle*,
>
> Instructional Designer | Instructional Technology and Distance Education |
> Johns Hopkins Engineering for Professionals | 6810 Deerpath Road |
> Elkridge, MD 21075 |
>
> o: 410.516.2291 | c: 443.271.0453 | *rcoyle at jhu.edu* <rcoyle at jhu.edu> | *
> www.ep.jhu.edu* <http://www.ep.jhu.edu/>
>
>
>
> *From:* *sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>[mailto:
> *sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Josh Baron*
> Sent:* Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:50 AM*
> To:* Warwick Chapman*
> Cc:* sakai-user; *sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>
> *
> Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test
>
>
>
> This is labor intensive but one work around we've used is to enter an
> unique comment into each student's exam feedback area (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4,
> etc.) and then go to the gradebook and see what comment they have and then
> write down their name. You're left with a "key" for which unique number is
> which student.
>
> I agree with Stephen, I thought you can now change the setting on the exam
> after it was taken to reveal the names but if that isn't working then this
> is another option.
>
> Josh
>
>
> -----------------------------
> Joshua Baron
> Senior Academic Technology Officer
> Marist College
> Poughkeepsie, New York 12601
> (845) 575-3623 (work)
> Twitter: JoshBaron
>
>
>
> From: Warwick Chapman <*warwickchapman at gmail.com*<warwickchapman at gmail.com>
> >
> To: Stephen Marquard <*stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za*<stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za>
> >
> Cc: sakai-user <*sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> >
> Date: 10/10/2010 09:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in
> test
> Sent by: *sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org*<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Steven
>
> For some reason this assessment (Formative?) doesn't have the "grading"
> options in settings.
>
> -- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | *http://warwickchapman.com*<http://warwickchapman.com/>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Stephen Marquard <*
> stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za* <stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za>> wrote:
> Hi Warwick,
>
> You should be able to change the settings of the published assessment
> from anonymous grading to show the identities.
>
> Regards
> Stephen
>
> >>> Warwick Chapman <*warwickchapman at gmail.com* <warwickchapman at gmail.com>>
> 10/10/2010 10:06 AM >>>
>
> Hi All
>
> I'm not quite sure how this happened but the test I setup (using
> formative
> assessment) for an entrance exam for 130+ candidates is now not showing
> the
> names of the "students" and just a submission number. I am certain
> that I
> did a practice export on Thursday and the names showed in the
> resultant
> spreadsheet.
>
> How can I establish the names of the candidates?
>
> -- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | *http://warwickchapman.com*<http://warwickchapman.com/>
>
>
>
>
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