[Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test

Sun Oct 10 10:11:23 PDT 2010

Warwick,

Sorry, I should have noted that in order for that process to work you need 
to have grades from Tests and Quizzes reported to the Gradebook but 
unfortunately I believe the setting you need to turn that on is one of the 
settings that is not showing up since you've selected the "formative 
assessment" type.  So, I don't think this method will work for you.  I 
realize this must be frustrating as I know we had some similar issues 
until we moved the "assessment type" option to avoid confusion.  The only 
other suggestion I can make is to "super user" in as each student  (which 
you can do if you have system administrator access in Sakai) once you've 
posted these "comments" and check to see what comment was left for that 
student.  This would also allow you to match comments to students but is 
obviously very time consuming.

Outside of this, I think the next thing would be to see if you can make 
some changes to the DB to reveal the information you need.  You may have 
better luck posting technical questions about things like the DB to the 
"Developers" or Dev list which you can subscribe to from 
http://sakaiproject.org/join-email-lists

Sorry, I know this isn't what you wanted to hear.

Josh

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron

From:   Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com>
To:     Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>
Cc:     sakai-user <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, 
"sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org" 
<sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
Date:   10/10/2010 12:59 PM
Subject:        Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in 
test
Sent by:        sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org

Bleak!

I'm trying to use your comment method, but nothing shows up in the 
Gradebook?  I'm a little shaky on this stuff...

-- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | http://warwickchapman.com

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu> wrote:
Ah, yes, if you select a specific "assessment type" you will not get all 
of the exam configuration settings (purpose of the assessment type feature 
is to allow you to limit the number of configuration settings).  This may 
be different with 2.7.1 but with 2.6.3 at least I don't believe you can 
change the assessment type once you've set it and created the exam.  You 
may be able to make that change in the DB but I'm not myself on the deep 
technical side and thus couldn't advise you on that option. 

Josh 

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron 

From:        Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com> 
To:        Rob Coyle <rcoyle at jhu.edu> 
Cc:        Josh Baron <Josh.Baron at marist.edu>, sakai-user <
sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>, "
sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org" <
sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org> 
Date:        10/10/2010 12:22 PM 
Subject:        Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in 
test 
Sent by:        sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org 

Hi Rob

Yes, we're using Samigo on 2.7.1 and we have that setting as well, but for 
whatever reason (perhaps because I used the Formative Assessment template 
instead of Timed Test) I do not see the "Grading" section under Settings.

-- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | http://warwickchapman.com

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Rob Coyle <rcoyle at jhu.edu> wrote: 
Not sure I fully caught what tool you are using specifically, or if this 
is instance related. We are on 2.6.4 and using Samigo Test and Quizzes. We 
have a Setting under Grading: 
Students' Identities: 
-          Students' identities can be seen by graders 
-          Anonymous grading only 

Robert M. Coyle, 
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| 
Johns Hopkins Engineering for Professionals | 6810 Deerpath Road | 
Elkridge, MD 21075  |  
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From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:
sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Josh Baron
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:50 AM
To: Warwick Chapman
Cc: sakai-user; sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org 

Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in test 

This is labor intensive but one work around we've used is to enter an 
unique comment into each student's exam feedback area (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, 
etc.) and then go to the gradebook and see what comment they have and then 
write down their name.  You're left with a "key" for which unique number 
is which student.   

I agree with Stephen, I thought you can now change the setting on the exam 
after it was taken to reveal the names but if that isn't working then this 
is another option. 

Josh 

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Joshua Baron
Senior Academic Technology Officer
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)
Twitter: JoshBaron 

From:        Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com> 
To:        Stephen Marquard <stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za> 
Cc:        sakai-user <sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org> 
Date:        10/10/2010 09:38 AM 
Subject:        Re: [Using Sakai] Oops, student identities concealed in 
test 
Sent by:        sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org 

Steven

For some reason this assessment (Formative?) doesn't have the "grading" 
options in settings.

-- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | http://warwickchapman.com

On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Stephen Marquard <
stephen.marquard at uct.ac.za> wrote: 
Hi Warwick,

You should be able to change the settings of the published assessment
from anonymous grading to show the identities.

Regards
Stephen

>>> Warwick Chapman <warwickchapman at gmail.com> 10/10/2010 10:06 AM >>> 

Hi All

I'm not quite sure how this happened but the test I setup (using
formative
assessment) for an entrance exam for 130+ candidates is now not showing
the
names of the "students" and just a submission number.  I am certain
that I
did a practice export on Thursday and the names showed in the
resultant
spreadsheet.

How can I establish the names of the candidates?

-- Warwick Bruce Chapman | +27 83 7797 094 | http://warwickchapman.com

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