[Using Sakai] for learning material

[Adam Marshall]

this sounds like really good stuff. 

It sounds so useful that it should become part of the core code. Could the work be committed back?

Adam

| -----Original Message-----
| From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai-user-
| bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Jon Higham
| Sent: 02 November 2010 13:42
| To: Marshall Feldman; sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org; Regimantas
| Maciulskis
| Cc: Patrick Lynch
| Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] for learning material
| 
| Paul Dagnall (dagnalpb at notes.udayton.edu) at the University of Dayton
| has done some excellent work on updating the site ids in links when
| content is copied using Import From Site for the tools Announcements,
| Assignments, Homepage, Samigo (Tests and Quizzes) and Syllabus.
| 
| At Hull, we have also made changes to update links to site ids for text
| type documents (txt, html, xml) for Resources and changed the way
| Melete updates its links when using Import From Site.
| 
| I can provide patch files for anyone who is interested.
| 
| 
| Jon Higham
| ICT Dept
| University of Hull
| 
| 
| 
| -----Original Message-----
| From: sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
| [mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of
| Marshall Feldman
| Sent: 02 November 2010 13:24
| To: sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
| Subject: Re: [Using Sakai] for learning material
| 
| Regimantas,
| 
| I generally keep learning material on a regular web server and only use
| Sakai as a front end. Several considerations led me to this.
| 
| When Sakai tools are copied between course sites, their links do not
| update to the corresponding tool's URL on the new site. For instance,
| if
| 
| you have a lesson with a link to the testing tool, tools like Melete
| Modules will still point to the old site's tool. For regular web pages,
| I've written a jQuery plugin that uses a single table for each course
| site and automatically updates links on web pages to the addresses in
| the table (e.g. <a href="$TESTS"> has the current site's URL for $TESTS
| substituted). I couldn't figure out any way to do this with Sakai's
| built-in tools without having access to and modifying Sakai's source
| code.
| 
| Also, when files stored on our Sakai server are updated, Sakai seems to
| generate a new URL. So even just keeping the web pages on Sakai and
| using my plugin doesn't work. I will, however, be moving readings and
| other things that do not change to a publicly accessible site on the
| Sakai server. With the current arrangement, I find it much easier, for
| example, to make a mid-semester change to the syllabus and not have to
| go through all my learning pages, track down, and change all references
| to the syllabus,
| 
| One big advantage of this approach is that you are not restricted to
| Sakai's built-in tools for e-learning. For instance, you can use
| interactive flash, mind maps, or whatever. One disadvantage is that you
| don't have some of the integration that Sakai provides. But I find
| integration among Sakai's tools is not very strong (e.g., when you send
| an email to a student from the testing tool, Sakai uses regular email
| rather than its own email tool), and ordinary web pages with my jQuery
| plugin actually provide better integration in many instances.
| 
| I haven't released the plugin publicly because is not yet documented,
| but it is easy to use and I could send you a link.
| 
|      Marsh Feldman
| 
| On 11/2/10 [Nov 2, 10] 8:13 AM,
| sakai-user-request at collab.sakaiproject.org wrote:
| > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 11:47:47 +0200
| > From: Regimantas Maciulskis<regimantas.maciulskis at gmail.com>
| > Subject: [Using Sakai] for learning material
| > To:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
| > Message-ID:
| > 	<AANLkTikJ5ttE1vrObAsqJb8zMezef18TCXY-hYzKsz=v at mail.gmail.com>
| > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
| >
| > Hello,
| > I would like to know where to put learning material in Sakai? In
| > moodle I used text page. What tools in Sakai is to put learning
| > material? I know that i can put docs in resources, but it is not true
| > e-learning.
| > Thank you very much.
| > Regimantas
| 
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