[Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]

Lydia Li lydial at stanford.edu
Wed Nov 18 11:47:21 PST 2009


Yes.   Stanford is actively working on Respondus integration. 
Please watch http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-7987  for status 
update.

thanks,
Lydia

Charles Hedrick wrote:
> No. My impression is that Stanford was fixing Samigo to handle 
> Respondus directly. If not, I'd be happy to contribute this.
>
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>
>> Is there a JIRA requesting inclusion of this feature into T&Q with 
>> your JSP attached?
>>
>> Charles Hedrick a écrit :
>>> Currently Tests and Quizes will not accept a Respondus export. The 
>>> Sakai QTI parsing is only written to understand QTI produced by 
>>> Sakai. However I can give you a JSP that will load any Respondus 
>>> test into Sakai, including computed numerical questions. I have 
>>> versions for Sakai 2.5.1 and 2.6 (and probably earlier versions).
>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 4:52:20 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>>> Thanks Anthony for your response.
>>>> However I would like to answer your questions about Migration and 
>>>> Exporting of Questions from Moodle to Sakai.
>>>> *we run Moodle version is 1.8.4
>>>> * we run Sakai version is 2.5.1
>>>> *Boeta Pretorius hooked me up with another lad, she called me and I 
>>>> gave her a sample of a Moodle question but she told me that she's 
>>>> still trying to do it.
>>>> *The conference call did not took place don't know why either?
>>>> *Respondus wants me to create the Test manually so it is not 
>>>> advisable for me to do it, It’s basically the same as creating the 
>>>> Tests manually in SAKAI as it will require me to export them from 
>>>> moodle to respond us and to sakai.
>>>> Herewith the following screenshot of the imported IMS QTI file that 
>>>> *appear*s blank in SAKAI.
>>>> Assessments 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
>>>> | Assessment Types 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
>>>> | Question Pools                  *That’s where I should see the 
>>>> IMS QTI imported file*   
>>>> <image006.png>                                                                                              
>>>> *But I don’t.*
>>>>
>>>> *Question Pools*
>>>>
>>>> Add New Pool 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
>>>> | Import 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Pool Name*<image004.gif> 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
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>>>> Creator 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
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>>>> Questions 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
>>>>
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>>>> Subpools 
>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
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>>>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> 
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>>>> I also think that since SAKAI is using IMS QTI 2.0 and My Moodle 
>>>> version is using IMS QTI 1.2 that could be the problem. And if 
>>>> that  is the problem how can I upgrade the IMS QTI version in Moodle.
>>>> NB: I have also attached  a sample of IMS QTI 1.2 Format that we 
>>>> use ,So that you can see what gives me a problem to export in Sakai.
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>>> Instructional Designer
>>>> IT Services
>>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>>> <image009.jpg>
>>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to 
>>>> fish you feed him for a life time"
>>>>  *From:* Anthony Whyte [mailto:arwhyte at umich.edu] *Sent:* Friday, 
>>>> November 06, 2009 3:15 PM
>>>> *To:* calvin mutsileng
>>>> *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org 
>>>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>; Val Theron; Berg Johan 
>>>> van den; Robin Smith; Pretorius Boeta; Ming Sun Jason
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]
>>>> Calvin--last month Robin Smith offered to do a Moodle/Respondus 4.0 
>>>> phone tutorial with you to solve the initial export problem.  Did 
>>>> the call take place?  Second, Boeta Pretorius from North-West 
>>>> University also offered to speak with you.  Have you spoken with him?
>>>> Looking back over the list archives I see an email from you on 21 
>>>> October reporting that "I have tried using Respondus 4 ,But it does 
>>>> not seem to work."  What precisely did not work and what steps did 
>>>> you take in your attempt to export your Moodle questions using 
>>>> Respondus?
>>>> What version of Moodle are you using?  What version of Sakai are 
>>>> you using?  If you attempted to import questions into Sakai using 
>>>> Test and Quizzes and the import failed, what was the error 
>>>> encountered and is there a stack trace you can send us?  If you 
>>>> were able to export tests out of Moodle using Respondus, can you 
>>>> send us a sample test?   It is difficult if not impossible for 
>>>> people in the Sakai Community to offer advice or solutions without 
>>>> knowledge of the specific context in which you are attempting to 
>>>> operate.
>>>> GETTING LOCAL ASSISTANCE
>>>> If our suggestions on list are getting you nowhere I recommend that 
>>>> you or your boss contact Psybergate and Tecqle, two South African 
>>>> IT services organizations that provide an array of Sakai support 
>>>> services.  I am confident that either organization can assist you 
>>>> in your test question export/import challenge.
>>>> Psybergate: 
>>>> http://www.psybergate.co.za/opencms/opencms/psybergate-pages/home1.html 
>>>>
>>>> Tecqle: http://www.teqcle.co.za/
>>>> FURTHER READING
>>>> Moodle question export
>>>> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Export_questions
>>>> Respondus 4.0 (read these)
>>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideMoodle.doc
>>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideIMS.doc
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Anthony
>>>>         On Nov 6, 2009, at 2:12 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have 900 questions in Moodle, How do I take them to SAKAI GUYS 
>>>> PLEASE help.
>>>> My Boss needs me to migrate these tests urgently.
>>>>   Kind Regards,
>>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>>> Instructional Designer
>>>> IT Services
>>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to 
>>>> fish you feed him for a life time"
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