[Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]
Charles Hedrick
hedrick at rutgers.edu
Wed Nov 18 10:57:01 PST 2009
Done. http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-17416
There has been a recent new version of Respondus. I haven't tested
with it.
This is based on our WebCT conversion code. There is probably unused
code in it. It works by fully parsing the Respondus QTI and generating
completely new QTI that Samigo will understand. Attempts are made to
fix up URLs to point into resources in Sakai.
Please note the setting of institution. If you use it directly, i.e.
you don't call it from Samigo you will need to update that and
possibly the text that uses it.
On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Nate Angell wrote:
> Charles: I'd strongly support your contributing your existing
> scripts by way of a Jira or otherwise. There are folks in the
> migration pathway already that could benefit, and of course the
> Samigo team might glean great benefit from your prior art.
>
> --
> Nate Angell
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> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Charles Hedrick wrote:
>
>> No. My impression is that Stanford was fixing Samigo to handle
>> Respondus directly. If not, I'd be happy to contribute this.
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a JIRA requesting inclusion of this feature into T&Q with
>>> your JSP attached?
>>>
>>> Charles Hedrick a écrit :
>>>> Currently Tests and Quizes will not accept a Respondus export.
>>>> The Sakai QTI parsing is only written to understand QTI produced
>>>> by Sakai. However I can give you a JSP that will load any
>>>> Respondus test into Sakai, including computed numerical
>>>> questions. I have versions for Sakai 2.5.1 and 2.6 (and probably
>>>> earlier versions).
>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 4:52:20 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Anthony for your response.
>>>>> However I would like to answer your questions about Migration
>>>>> and Exporting of Questions from Moodle to Sakai.
>>>>> *we run Moodle version is 1.8.4
>>>>> * we run Sakai version is 2.5.1
>>>>> *Boeta Pretorius hooked me up with another lad, she called me
>>>>> and I gave her a sample of a Moodle question but she told me
>>>>> that she's still trying to do it.
>>>>> *The conference call did not took place don't know why either?
>>>>> *Respondus wants me to create the Test manually so it is not
>>>>> advisable for me to do it, It’s basically the same as creating
>>>>> the Tests manually in SAKAI as it will require me to export them
>>>>> from moodle to respond us and to sakai.
>>>>> Herewith the following screenshot of the imported IMS QTI file
>>>>> that *appear*s blank in SAKAI.
>>>>> Assessments <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Assessment Types <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Question Pools *That’s where I should see
>>>>> the IMS QTI imported file*
>>>>> <
>>>>> image006
>>>>> .png
>>>>> >
>>>>> *But
>>>>> I don’t.*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Question Pools*
>>>>>
>>>>> Add New Pool <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Import <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> *Pool Name*<image004.gif> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Creator <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Last Modified <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Questions <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Subpools <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Remove?
>>>>>
>>>>> <image007.png> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >- 2 <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>> <image007.png>Add <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Copy <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Move <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Sakai Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> 11/10/2009
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <image007.png> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >- 2 <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>> <image007.png>Add <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Copy <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Move <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Sakai Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> 11/10/2009
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <image007.png> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>> <image007.png>Add <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Copy <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> > | Move <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Sakai Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>> 11/10/2009
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>>
>>>>> 0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also think that since SAKAI is using IMS QTI 2.0 and My Moodle
>>>>> version is using IMS QTI 1.2 that could be the problem. And if
>>>>> that is the problem how can I upgrade the IMS QTI version in
>>>>> Moodle.
>>>>> NB: I have also attached a sample of IMS QTI 1.2 Format that we
>>>>> use ,So that you can see what gives me a problem to export in
>>>>> Sakai.
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>>>> Instructional Designer
>>>>> IT Services
>>>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>>>> <image009.jpg>
>>>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how
>>>>> to fish you feed him for a life time"
>>>>> *From:* Anthony Whyte [mailto:arwhyte at umich.edu] *Sent:* Friday,
>>>>> November 06, 2009 3:15 PM
>>>>> *To:* calvin mutsileng
>>>>> *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> >; Val Theron; Berg Johan van den; Robin Smith; Pretorius Boeta;
>>>>> Ming Sun Jason
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai
>>>>> [Scanned]
>>>>> Calvin--last month Robin Smith offered to do a Moodle/Respondus
>>>>> 4.0 phone tutorial with you to solve the initial export
>>>>> problem. Did the call take place? Second, Boeta Pretorius from
>>>>> North-West University also offered to speak with you. Have you
>>>>> spoken with him?
>>>>> Looking back over the list archives I see an email from you on
>>>>> 21 October reporting that "I have tried using Respondus 4 ,But
>>>>> it does not seem to work." What precisely did not work and what
>>>>> steps did you take in your attempt to export your Moodle
>>>>> questions using Respondus?
>>>>> What version of Moodle are you using? What version of Sakai are
>>>>> you using? If you attempted to import questions into Sakai
>>>>> using Test and Quizzes and the import failed, what was the error
>>>>> encountered and is there a stack trace you can send us? If you
>>>>> were able to export tests out of Moodle using Respondus, can you
>>>>> send us a sample test? It is difficult if not impossible for
>>>>> people in the Sakai Community to offer advice or solutions
>>>>> without knowledge of the specific context in which you are
>>>>> attempting to operate.
>>>>> GETTING LOCAL ASSISTANCE
>>>>> If our suggestions on list are getting you nowhere I recommend
>>>>> that you or your boss contact Psybergate and Tecqle, two South
>>>>> African IT services organizations that provide an array of Sakai
>>>>> support services. I am confident that either organization can
>>>>> assist you in your test question export/import challenge.
>>>>> Psybergate: http://www.psybergate.co.za/opencms/opencms/psybergate-pages/home1.html
>>>>> Tecqle: http://www.teqcle.co.za/
>>>>> FURTHER READING
>>>>> Moodle question export
>>>>> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Export_questions
>>>>> Respondus 4.0 (read these)
>>>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideMoodle.doc
>>>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideIMS.doc
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Anthony
>>>>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 2:12 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 900 questions in Moodle, How do I take them to SAKAI GUYS
>>>>> PLEASE help.
>>>>> My Boss needs me to migrate these tests urgently.
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>>>> Instructional Designer
>>>>> IT Services
>>>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how
>>>>> to fish you feed him for a life time"
>>
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