[Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]

Wed Nov 18 10:40:40 PST 2009

Charles: I'd strongly support your contributing your existing scripts  
by way of a Jira or otherwise. There are folks in the migration  
pathway already that could benefit, and of course the Samigo team  
might glean great benefit from your prior art.

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On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Charles Hedrick wrote:

> No. My impression is that Stanford was fixing Samigo to handle  
> Respondus directly. If not, I'd be happy to contribute this.
>
> On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>
>> Is there a JIRA requesting inclusion of this feature into T&Q with  
>> your JSP attached?
>>
>> Charles Hedrick a écrit :
>>> Currently Tests and Quizes will not accept a Respondus export. The  
>>> Sakai QTI parsing is only written to understand QTI produced by  
>>> Sakai. However I can give you a JSP that will load any Respondus  
>>> test into Sakai, including computed numerical questions. I have  
>>> versions for Sakai 2.5.1 and 2.6 (and probably earlier versions).
>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 4:52:20 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>>> Thanks Anthony for your response.
>>>> However I would like to answer your questions about Migration and  
>>>> Exporting of Questions from Moodle to Sakai.
>>>> *we run Moodle version is 1.8.4
>>>> * we run Sakai version is 2.5.1
>>>> *Boeta Pretorius hooked me up with another lad, she called me and  
>>>> I gave her a sample of a Moodle question but she told me that  
>>>> she's still trying to do it.
>>>> *The conference call did not took place don't know why either?
>>>> *Respondus wants me to create the Test manually so it is not  
>>>> advisable for me to do it, It’s basically the same as creating  
>>>> the Tests manually in SAKAI as it will require me to export them  
>>>> from moodle to respond us and to sakai.
>>>> Herewith the following screenshot of the imported IMS QTI file  
>>>> that *appear*s blank in SAKAI.
>>>> Assessments <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>>> > | Assessment Types <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>>> > | Question Pools                  *That’s where I should see  
>>>> the IMS QTI imported file*    
>>>> < 
>>>> image006 
>>>> .png 
>>>> > 
>>>>                                                                                               *But 
>>>>  I don’t.*
>>>>
>>>> *Question Pools*
>>>>
>>>> Add New Pool <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>>> > | Import <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>>> >
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>>>> *Pool Name*<image004.gif> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>>> Creator <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>>> Last Modified <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>>> >
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>>>> Questions <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>>> >
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>>>> Subpools <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>>> > | Copy <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>>> > | Move <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>>> I also think that since SAKAI is using IMS QTI 2.0 and My Moodle  
>>>> version is using IMS QTI 1.2 that could be the problem. And if  
>>>> that  is the problem how can I upgrade the IMS QTI version in  
>>>> Moodle.
>>>> NB: I have also attached  a sample of IMS QTI 1.2 Format that we  
>>>> use ,So that you can see what gives me a problem to export in  
>>>> Sakai.
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>>> Instructional Designer
>>>> IT Services
>>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>>> <image009.jpg>
>>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to  
>>>> fish you feed him for a life time"
>>>> *From:* Anthony Whyte [mailto:arwhyte at umich.edu] *Sent:* Friday,  
>>>> November 06, 2009 3:15 PM
>>>> *To:* calvin mutsileng
>>>> *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org 
>>>> >; Val Theron; Berg Johan van den; Robin Smith; Pretorius Boeta;  
>>>> Ming Sun Jason
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai  
>>>> [Scanned]
>>>> Calvin--last month Robin Smith offered to do a Moodle/Respondus  
>>>> 4.0 phone tutorial with you to solve the initial export problem.   
>>>> Did the call take place?  Second, Boeta Pretorius from North-West  
>>>> University also offered to speak with you.  Have you spoken with  
>>>> him?
>>>> Looking back over the list archives I see an email from you on 21  
>>>> October reporting that "I have tried using Respondus 4 ,But it  
>>>> does not seem to work."  What precisely did not work and what  
>>>> steps did you take in your attempt to export your Moodle  
>>>> questions using Respondus?
>>>> What version of Moodle are you using?  What version of Sakai are  
>>>> you using?  If you attempted to import questions into Sakai using  
>>>> Test and Quizzes and the import failed, what was the error  
>>>> encountered and is there a stack trace you can send us?  If you  
>>>> were able to export tests out of Moodle using Respondus, can you  
>>>> send us a sample test?   It is difficult if not impossible for  
>>>> people in the Sakai Community to offer advice or solutions  
>>>> without knowledge of the specific context in which you are  
>>>> attempting to operate.
>>>> GETTING LOCAL ASSISTANCE
>>>> If our suggestions on list are getting you nowhere I recommend  
>>>> that you or your boss contact Psybergate and Tecqle, two South  
>>>> African IT services organizations that provide an array of Sakai  
>>>> support services.  I am confident that either organization can  
>>>> assist you in your test question export/import challenge.
>>>> Psybergate: http://www.psybergate.co.za/opencms/opencms/psybergate-pages/home1.html
>>>> Tecqle: http://www.teqcle.co.za/
>>>> FURTHER READING
>>>> Moodle question export
>>>> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Export_questions
>>>> Respondus 4.0 (read these)
>>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideMoodle.doc
>>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideIMS.doc
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Anthony
>>>>        On Nov 6, 2009, at 2:12 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have 900 questions in Moodle, How do I take them to SAKAI GUYS  
>>>> PLEASE help.
>>>> My Boss needs me to migrate these tests urgently.
>>>>  Kind Regards,
>>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>>> Instructional Designer
>>>> IT Services
>>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to  
>>>> fish you feed him for a life time"
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