[Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]

Charles Hedrick hedrick at rutgers.edu
Wed Nov 18 10:35:34 PST 2009


No. My impression is that Stanford was fixing Samigo to handle  
Respondus directly. If not, I'd be happy to contribute this.

On Nov 18, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:

> Is there a JIRA requesting inclusion of this feature into T&Q with  
> your JSP attached?
>
> Charles Hedrick a écrit :
>> Currently Tests and Quizes will not accept a Respondus export. The  
>> Sakai QTI parsing is only written to understand QTI produced by  
>> Sakai. However I can give you a JSP that will load any Respondus  
>> test into Sakai, including computed numerical questions. I have  
>> versions for Sakai 2.5.1 and 2.6 (and probably earlier versions).
>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 4:52:20 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>> Thanks Anthony for your response.
>>> However I would like to answer your questions about Migration and  
>>> Exporting of Questions from Moodle to Sakai.
>>> *we run Moodle version is 1.8.4
>>> * we run Sakai version is 2.5.1
>>> *Boeta Pretorius hooked me up with another lad, she called me and  
>>> I gave her a sample of a Moodle question but she told me that  
>>> she's still trying to do it.
>>> *The conference call did not took place don't know why either?
>>> *Respondus wants me to create the Test manually so it is not  
>>> advisable for me to do it, It’s basically the same as creating the  
>>> Tests manually in SAKAI as it will require me to export them from  
>>> moodle to respond us and to sakai.
>>> Herewith the following screenshot of the imported IMS QTI file  
>>> that *appear*s blank in SAKAI.
>>> Assessments <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Assessment Types <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Question Pools                  *That’s where I should see the  
>>> IMS QTI imported file*    
>>> < 
>>> image006 
>>> .png 
>>> > 
>>>                                                                                               *But 
>>>  I don’t.*
>>>
>>> *Question Pools*
>>>
>>> Add New Pool <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Import <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
>>>
>>> *Pool Name*<image004.gif> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
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>>> Creator <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
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>>> Last Modified <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
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>>> Questions <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
>>>
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>>> Subpools <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>> Remove?
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>>> <image007.png> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >- 2 <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
>>> <image007.png>Add <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Copy <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Move <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
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>>> <image007.png> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >- 2 <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> >
>>> <image007.png>Add <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Copy <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Move <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>> <image007.png> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>> <image007.png>Add <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Copy <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
>>> > | Move <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool 
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>>> I also think that since SAKAI is using IMS QTI 2.0 and My Moodle  
>>> version is using IMS QTI 1.2 that could be the problem. And if  
>>> that  is the problem how can I upgrade the IMS QTI version in  
>>> Moodle.
>>> NB: I have also attached  a sample of IMS QTI 1.2 Format that we  
>>> use ,So that you can see what gives me a problem to export in Sakai.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>> Instructional Designer
>>> IT Services
>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>> <image009.jpg>
>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to  
>>> fish you feed him for a life time"
>>>  *From:* Anthony Whyte [mailto:arwhyte at umich.edu] *Sent:* Friday,  
>>> November 06, 2009 3:15 PM
>>> *To:* calvin mutsileng
>>> *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org 
>>> >; Val Theron; Berg Johan van den; Robin Smith; Pretorius Boeta;  
>>> Ming Sun Jason
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]
>>> Calvin--last month Robin Smith offered to do a Moodle/Respondus  
>>> 4.0 phone tutorial with you to solve the initial export problem.   
>>> Did the call take place?  Second, Boeta Pretorius from North-West  
>>> University also offered to speak with you.  Have you spoken with  
>>> him?
>>> Looking back over the list archives I see an email from you on 21  
>>> October reporting that "I have tried using Respondus 4 ,But it  
>>> does not seem to work."  What precisely did not work and what  
>>> steps did you take in your attempt to export your Moodle questions  
>>> using Respondus?
>>> What version of Moodle are you using?  What version of Sakai are  
>>> you using?  If you attempted to import questions into Sakai using  
>>> Test and Quizzes and the import failed, what was the error  
>>> encountered and is there a stack trace you can send us?  If you  
>>> were able to export tests out of Moodle using Respondus, can you  
>>> send us a sample test?   It is difficult if not impossible for  
>>> people in the Sakai Community to offer advice or solutions without  
>>> knowledge of the specific context in which you are attempting to  
>>> operate.
>>> GETTING LOCAL ASSISTANCE
>>> If our suggestions on list are getting you nowhere I recommend  
>>> that you or your boss contact Psybergate and Tecqle, two South  
>>> African IT services organizations that provide an array of Sakai  
>>> support services.  I am confident that either organization can  
>>> assist you in your test question export/import challenge.
>>> Psybergate: http://www.psybergate.co.za/opencms/opencms/psybergate-pages/home1.html
>>> Tecqle: http://www.teqcle.co.za/
>>> FURTHER READING
>>> Moodle question export
>>> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Export_questions
>>> Respondus 4.0 (read these)
>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideMoodle.doc
>>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideIMS.doc
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anthony
>>>         On Nov 6, 2009, at 2:12 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have 900 questions in Moodle, How do I take them to SAKAI GUYS  
>>> PLEASE help.
>>> My Boss needs me to migrate these tests urgently.
>>>   Kind Regards,
>>> Calvin Mutsileng
>>> Instructional Designer
>>> IT Services
>>> Vaal University of Technology
>>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to  
>>> fish you feed him for a life time"

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