[Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]

Jean-Francois Leveque jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr
Wed Nov 18 07:16:11 PST 2009


Is there a JIRA requesting inclusion of this feature into T&Q with your 
JSP attached?

Charles Hedrick a écrit :
> Currently Tests and Quizes will not accept a Respondus export. The Sakai 
> QTI parsing is only written to understand QTI produced by Sakai. However 
> I can give you a JSP that will load any Respondus test into Sakai, 
> including computed numerical questions. I have versions for Sakai 2.5.1 
> and 2.6 (and probably earlier versions).
> 
> 
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 4:52:20 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Anthony for your response.
>>  
>> However I would like to answer your questions about Migration and 
>> Exporting of Questions from Moodle to Sakai.
>>  
>> *we run Moodle version is 1.8.4
>> * we run Sakai version is 2.5.1
>> *Boeta Pretorius hooked me up with another lad, she called me and I 
>> gave her a sample of a Moodle question but she told me that she's 
>> still trying to do it.
>> *The conference call did not took place don't know why either?
>> *Respondus wants me to create the Test manually so it is not advisable 
>> for me to do it, It’s basically the same as creating the Tests 
>> manually in SAKAI as it will require me to export them from moodle to 
>> respond us and to sakai.
>>  
>> Herewith the following screenshot of the imported IMS QTI file 
>> that *appear*s blank in SAKAI.
>> Assessments 
>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> | Assessment 
>> Types 
>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> | 
>> Question Pools                  *That’s where I should see the IMS QTI 
>> imported file*   
>> <image006.png>       
>>                                                                                        *But 
>> I don’t.*
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>> *Question Pools*
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>> Add New Pool 
>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool> | Import 
>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool>
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>> *Pool Name*<image004.gif> 
>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool>
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>> Last Modified 
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>> Questions 
>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool>
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>> Subpools 
>> <http://196.21.64.66:8080/portal/tool/9659076e-f08c-4122-b749-bce6ef73d181/jsf/qti/importPool>
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>> I also think that since SAKAI is using IMS QTI 2.0 and My Moodle 
>> version is using IMS QTI 1.2 that could be the problem. And if that  
>> is the problem how can I upgrade the IMS QTI version in Moodle.
>>  
>> NB: I have also attached  a sample of IMS QTI 1.2 Format that we use 
>> ,So that you can see what gives me a problem to export in Sakai.
>>  
>> Kind Regards,
>>  
>> Calvin Mutsileng
>> Instructional Designer
>> IT Services
>> Vaal University of Technology
>> <image009.jpg>
>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to fish 
>> you feed him for a life time"
>>  
>>  
>> *From:* Anthony Whyte [mailto:arwhyte at umich.edu] 
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 06, 2009 3:15 PM
>> *To:* calvin mutsileng
>> *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org 
>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>; Val Theron; Berg Johan 
>> van den; Robin Smith; Pretorius Boeta; Ming Sun Jason
>> *Subject:* Re: [Using Sakai] Migratin from Moodle to Sakai [Scanned]
>>  
>> Calvin--last month Robin Smith offered to do a Moodle/Respondus 4.0 
>> phone tutorial with you to solve the initial export problem.  Did the 
>> call take place?  Second, Boeta Pretorius from North-West University 
>> also offered to speak with you.  Have you spoken with him?
>>  
>> Looking back over the list archives I see an email from you on 21 
>> October reporting that "I have tried using Respondus 4 ,But it does 
>> not seem to work."  What precisely did not work and what steps did you 
>> take in your attempt to export your Moodle questions using Respondus?
>>  
>> What version of Moodle are you using?  What version of Sakai are you 
>> using?  If you attempted to import questions into Sakai using Test and 
>> Quizzes and the import failed, what was the error encountered and is 
>> there a stack trace you can send us?  If you were able to export tests 
>> out of Moodle using Respondus, can you send us a sample test?   It is 
>> difficult if not impossible for people in the Sakai Community to offer 
>> advice or solutions without knowledge of the specific context in which 
>> you are attempting to operate.
>>  
>> GETTING LOCAL ASSISTANCE
>>  
>> If our suggestions on list are getting you nowhere I recommend that 
>> you or your boss contact Psybergate and Tecqle, two South African IT 
>> services organizations that provide an array of Sakai support 
>> services.  I am confident that either organization can assist you in 
>> your test question export/import challenge.
>>  
>> Psybergate: http://www.psybergate.co.za/opencms/opencms/psybergate-pages/home1.html
>> Tecqle: http://www.teqcle.co.za/
>>  
>> FURTHER READING
>>  
>> Moodle question export
>> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Export_questions
>>  
>> Respondus 4.0 (read these)
>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideMoodle.doc
>> http://www.respondus.com/downloads/Respondus40UserGuideIMS.doc
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anthony
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>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 2:12 AM, calvin mutsileng wrote:
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>> I have 900 questions in Moodle, How do I take them to SAKAI GUYS 
>> PLEASE help.
>>  
>> My Boss needs me to migrate these tests urgently.
>>  
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>> Kind Regards,
>>  
>> Calvin Mutsileng
>> Instructional Designer
>> IT Services
>> Vaal University of Technology
>> Tel no:016 950 9843 / 9753
>> Email: _calvinmu at vut.ac.za <mailto:calvinmu at vut.ac.za>_
>> "Give a man a fish you feed him for the day ,But teach him how to fish 
>> you feed him for a life time"


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