[Using Sakai] Site hierarchy or subsites

Steve Swinsburg s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk
Thu Jul 2 09:00:44 PDT 2009


Hi,

Just a heads up that we have a project to extend the site hierarchy  
capability that is already in Sakai, and make several of the core  
Sakai tools 'hierarchy aware' so that content can be shared/propagated  
across sites. I'll come to the BOF and fill you in on where we are at,  
and see if we can focus our efforts.

You might like to also take a look at the hierarchy work by Charles  
Severance that's been in Sakai since before 2.5:

https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn//reference/trunk/docs/architecture/sakai_pseudo_hierarchy.doc

or shorter url:
http://bit.ly/R8mpC


cheers,
Steve

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Steve Swinsburg
Portal Systems Developer
Centre for e-Science
Lancaster University
Lancaster
LA1 4YT

email: s.swinsburg at lancaster.ac.uk
phone: +44 (0) 1524 594870







On 2 Jul 2009, at 16:53, Robin Hill wrote:

> I have scheduled a BOF called "Hierarchical Worksites" on Friday  
> morning
> at 9:30.  Since no time slot is free of conflict with other  
> sessions, I
> would move this for the sake of the other three people who have
> expressed interest in this topic or have had it expressd for them  
> (Ogle,
> Diop, Buckett); just let me know.
>
> Everyone else in the Sakai-User division is warmly invited, as well as
> any developers that might happen along.
>
>
>
> Mame-Awa Diop wrote:
>> Hi Daphne
>>
>>
>> It seems the Confluence page is down right now so I can't find the
>> the exact link. Later you can look, it is in a page that contains all
>> presentations of the 2008 Paris Conference, the title is : Oxford
>> University's Hierarchy Service - Demonstration and Discussion
>>
>> I have attached to this message a copy of the PowerPoint file of the
>> presentation. I hope it helps.
>>
>> Mame Awa Diop
>>
>> Developer
>>
>> HEC Montréal - OpenSyllabus Project
>>
>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/OSYL/OpenSyllabus+Home
>>
>>
>> -------- Message original -------- Sujet : Re: [Building Sakai]
>> [Using Sakai]  Site hierarchy or subsites De : Daphne Ogle
>> <daphne at media.berkeley.edu> <mailto:daphne at media.berkeley.edu> Pour :
>> mame-awa.diop at hec.ca <mailto:mame-awa.diop at hec.ca> Copie à : Adam
>> Marshall <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>> <mailto:adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>, 'Robin Hill' <Hill at uwyo.edu>
>> <mailto:Hill at uwyo.edu>, sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> <mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org> Date : 2009-06-29 13:32
>>> Hi Mame Awa,
>>>
>>> Where did you find the podcast?  I've been looking around at
>>> sakaiproject.org but don't see conference podcasts.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>
>>> -Daphne
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2009, at 11:11 AM, Mame-Awa Diop wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I would be nice to have a Birds-of-a-Feather session at
>>>> conference, we have done a lot of analysis on this and can
>>>> provide a good base of reflexion. Robin, it sure  that the member
>>>> of the OpenSyllabus project (HEC Montreal, University of Montreal
>>>> and CRIM) are interested. Let us know if something will be
>>>> organized.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Mame Awa Diop Developer HEC Montréal - OpenSyllabus
>>>> Project
>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/OSYL/OpenSyllabus+Home
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Message original -------- Sujet : Re: [Using Sakai]
>>>> [Building Sakai] Site hierarchy or subsites De : Adam Marshall
>>>> <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk> Pour : 'Robin Hill'
>>>> <Hill at uwyo.edu> <mailto:Hill at uwyo.edu>, mame-awa.diop at hec.ca
>>>> <mailto:mame-awa.diop at hec.ca> Copie à :
>>>> sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org> Date : 2009-06-26
>>>> 04:22
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m not going to be at the conference but perhaps Matthew could
>>>>> chat to both of you at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Robin Hill [mailto:Hill at uwyo.edu] *Sent:* 25 June 2009
>>>>> 22:03 *To:* mame-awa.diop at hec.ca <mailto:mame-awa.diop at hec.ca>;
>>>>> Adam Marshall *Cc:* sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>;
>>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org> *Subject:* RE:
>>>>> [Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] Site hierarchy or subsites
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am quite interested in this, as well, since a recursive CLE
>>>>> structure would have teaching applications.  I'd like to join
>>>>> the two of you in a meeting.  Would anyone else (in this User
>>>>> group)? If so, I could set up a Birds-of-a-Feather session.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin Hill
>>>>>
>>>>> hill at uwyo.edu <mailto:hill at uwyo.edu>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>>>> [sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-user-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>] On Behalf
>>>>> Of Mame-Awa Diop [mame-awa.diop at hec.ca
>>>>> <mailto:mame-awa.diop at hec.ca>] *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009
>>>>> 9:24 AM *To:* Adam Marshall *Cc:*
>>>>> sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org>;
>>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org> *Subject:* Re:
>>>>> [Using Sakai] [Building Sakai] Site hierarchy or subsites
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> I found the podcast, I will check it as soon as possible. It
>>>>> would also be nice to have access to your beta version as an
>>>>> anonymous user and the documentation. I understand you are
>>>>> quite busy right now so I will see Matthew Buckett at the
>>>>> conference ( I will be there)  and we will see later for
>>>>> further questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mame Awa Diop Developer HEC Montréal - OpenSyllabus Project
>>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/OSYL/OpenSyllabus+Home
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Message original -------- Sujet : Re: [Building Sakai]
>>>>> Site hierarchy or subsites De : Adam Marshall
>>>>> <adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk>
>>>>> <mailto:adam.marshall at oucs.ox.ac.uk> Pour :
>>>>> mame-awa.diop at hec.ca <mailto:mame-awa.diop at hec.ca>,
>>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>,
>>>>> sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org> Date : 2009-06-16
>>>>> 10:53
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we’re “some institutions”.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit beta.weblearn.ox.ac.uk – you can see evidence of our
>>>>> hierarchy underneath the tools panel on the left.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can give you a username although that wont really allow you
>>>>> to see much more than visiting as an anonymous user. If you
>>>>> want, I can send you the user documentation so you can see what
>>>>> the hierarchy provides in the way of administration options.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We did a talk at the Paris conference – (A Marshall, M Buckett)
>>>>> if that’s available as a podcast then it’s worth listening to.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can also spend some time explaining how it all work although
>>>>> I’d really appreciate doing this after our big launch –
>>>>> sometime in July? I’m not going to Boston but Matthew Buckett
>>>>> is – you could try to speak to him there?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In short, we’re very keen to help you out but are rather busy
>>>>> for the next 2-3 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>>>> [mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] *On Behalf
>>>>> Of *Mame-Awa Diop *Sent:* 16 June 2009 15:09 *To:*
>>>>> sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org>;
>>>>> sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org
>>>>> <mailto:sakai-user at collab.sakaiproject.org> *Subject:*
>>>>> [Building Sakai] Site hierarchy or subsites
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for information about site hierarchy, there is a
>>>>> JIRA task that refers to it SAKAI-7907: Add hierarchy
>>>>> capability to the framework
>>>>> <http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/jira/browse/SAK-7907> and a
>>>>> discussion group is going on Google groupes: CSU Site, User and
>>>>> Group Requirements.
>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/sakai-kernel/web/csu-site-user-and-groups-requirements?version=6 
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It also seems some institutions has implemented something to
>>>>> reprensent a site hierarchy or subsites. Could your share your
>>>>> experience or refer me to an implementation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mame Awa Diop Developer HEC Montréal - OpenSyllabus Project
>>>>> http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/OSYL/OpenSyllabus+Home
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>> Daphne Ogle Senior Interaction Designer University of California,
>>> Berkeley Educational Technology Services daphne at media.berkeley.edu
>>> <mailto:daphne at media.berkeley.edu> cell (925)348-4372
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> -- 
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