[sakai-pmc] [sakai-forum] Re: What do we think of this so far?

[Steve Swinsburg]

Ok no worries. Sounds good then, ignore my question on the other thread.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com> wrote:

> I think it's just a matter of logical organization and how the email
> addresses would look.
>
> For instance sakai-dev at googlegroups.com (if that's names available)
> verses sakai-dev at apereo.org
>
> And in the url it would appear under the /a/apereo.org similar to OAE
> https://groups.google.com/a/apereo.org/forum/#!forum/oae
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Yep, that consolidation sounds good too.
>>
>> I still have the question as to why the google group would exist under
>> the apereo.org umbrella and not just a main google group. What do we
>> achieve? Do we lose anything in terms of visibility and discoverability?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Sold. Now what about the mapping? It seems clear that activity is
>>> somewhat lower and less diverse than in times past. Even though many have
>>> been consolidated already, here is a further strawman:
>>>
>>> gradebook2-dev, evaluation, samigo-team, sakai-mobile -> sakai-dev
>>>
>>> infrastructure -> sakai-core-team
>>>
>>> portfolio -> pedagogy
>>>
>>> i18n, accessibility, sakai-docs -> sakai-qa
>>>
>>> (and maybe something with eurosakai, ja-sakai, sakai-france, sakai-au)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Noah
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> The monthly costs of the server that host mailman and Jenkins together
>>> was something like $150 a month. We really don't need that Jenkins instance
>>> anymore because we have a Jenkins running on AWS now with the new nightlies.
>>>
>>> We could put mailman on an EC2 (either the current machine or a micro)
>>> and shut down this existing machine to save the foundation money but
>>> someone would have to set it up with our custom hacks and configuration
>>> which would probably take at least a few hours.
>>>
>>> But I think we also figured Google groups provided more benefits even
>>> over the cost savings, such as better archives of the messages, searching
>>> and a forum style web view.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, uhh... Is Mailman a problem? I mean: what is the total time +
>>>> dollar cost annually?
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind consolidation and outsourcing but it kind of feels like
>>>> fiddling unless there are other costs and issues unknown to me.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose we're moving other core workflow/infrastructure bits around
>>>> now, so it's as good a time as any. This isn't an objection -- just
>>>> wondering why the new mouse trap's better, since it might shape the
>>>> transition (à la grand unification).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Noah
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Who do I ask about access to the Collab server? At one time I had
>>>> access but now I cannot get in.
>>>>
>>>> I get the message "Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic)"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:52 AM, John A. Lewis - Unicon <
>>>> jlewis at unicon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There is an API for importing individual messages. Maybe someone wants
>>>>> to look at scripting a migration? On a quick search I didn't find much else
>>>>> that is ready to use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://developers.google.com/admin-sdk/groups-migration/v1/guides/manage-email-migrations
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, I think we should. That's one of the things I need to
>>>>>> investigate (or use help in investigating). Maybe we can move the archives
>>>>>> to a simple web server?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Seth Theriault <slt at columbia.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> > FYI, I would like to decommission all Mailman mailing lists this
>>>>>>> year in
>>>>>>> > favor of other options. I was leaning towards using Apereo Google
>>>>>>> Groups as
>>>>>>> > the most viable option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we plan to maintain the Mailman list archives in a specific
>>>>>>> manner?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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