[sakai-pmc] [sakai-forum] Re: What do we think of this so far?

[Matthew Jones]

I think it's just a matter of logical organization and how the email
addresses would look.

For instance sakai-dev at googlegroups.com (if that's names available) verses
sakai-dev at apereo.org

And in the url it would appear under the /a/apereo.org similar to OAE
https://groups.google.com/a/apereo.org/forum/#!forum/oae


On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Steve Swinsburg <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yep, that consolidation sounds good too.
>
> I still have the question as to why the google group would exist under the
> apereo.org umbrella and not just a main google group. What do we achieve?
> Do we lose anything in terms of visibility and discoverability?
>
>
>
>
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> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> Sold. Now what about the mapping? It seems clear that activity is
>> somewhat lower and less diverse than in times past. Even though many have
>> been consolidated already, here is a further strawman:
>>
>> gradebook2-dev, evaluation, samigo-team, sakai-mobile -> sakai-dev
>>
>> infrastructure -> sakai-core-team
>>
>> portfolio -> pedagogy
>>
>> i18n, accessibility, sakai-docs -> sakai-qa
>>
>> (and maybe something with eurosakai, ja-sakai, sakai-france, sakai-au)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Noah
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Matthew Jones wrote:
>>
>> The monthly costs of the server that host mailman and Jenkins together
>> was something like $150 a month. We really don't need that Jenkins instance
>> anymore because we have a Jenkins running on AWS now with the new nightlies.
>>
>> We could put mailman on an EC2 (either the current machine or a micro)
>> and shut down this existing machine to save the foundation money but
>> someone would have to set it up with our custom hacks and configuration
>> which would probably take at least a few hours.
>>
>> But I think we also figured Google groups provided more benefits even
>> over the cost savings, such as better archives of the messages, searching
>> and a forum style web view.
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Noah Botimer <botimer at umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> So, uhh... Is Mailman a problem? I mean: what is the total time + dollar
>>> cost annually?
>>>
>>> I don't mind consolidation and outsourcing but it kind of feels like
>>> fiddling unless there are other costs and issues unknown to me.
>>>
>>> I suppose we're moving other core workflow/infrastructure bits around
>>> now, so it's as good a time as any. This isn't an objection -- just
>>> wondering why the new mouse trap's better, since it might shape the
>>> transition (à la grand unification).
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Noah
>>>
>>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>>>
>>> Who do I ask about access to the Collab server? At one time I had access
>>> but now I cannot get in.
>>>
>>> I get the message "Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic)"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:52 AM, John A. Lewis - Unicon <
>>> jlewis at unicon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is an API for importing individual messages. Maybe someone wants
>>>> to look at scripting a migration? On a quick search I didn't find much else
>>>> that is ready to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://developers.google.com/admin-sdk/groups-migration/v1/guides/manage-email-migrations
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I think we should. That's one of the things I need to
>>>>> investigate (or use help in investigating). Maybe we can move the archives
>>>>> to a simple web server?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Seth Theriault <slt at columbia.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > FYI, I would like to decommission all Mailman mailing lists this
>>>>>> year in
>>>>>> > favor of other options. I was leaning towards using Apereo Google
>>>>>> Groups as
>>>>>> > the most viable option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we plan to maintain the Mailman list archives in a specific manner?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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