[sakai-pmc] Stack exchange site

Jean-Francois Leveque jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr
Thu Jun 12 01:13:25 PDT 2014


Still hard for me not being able to attend the meeting this year. :(

Le 11/06/2014 22:47, Steve Swinsburg a écrit :
> They may appear to be major roadblocks but it may not end up being too
> difficult. The 'beer' proposal is already in public beta, has less than
> 1 question per day, 61 avid users and 156 visits per day
>
> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/48905/beer
> http://beer.stackexchange.com/
>
> I've received positive feedback from the uPortal SG, they are going to
> add it as a discussion item.
>
> We did agree to try this out at the PMC meeting, lets see where it goes.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:05 AM, <markjnorton at earthlink.net
> <mailto:markjnorton at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>      >  I do like the openness and socialness (is that a word?)
>
>     "Social Nature" might be a better way to put it.  :)
>
>     Generally, I agree, but SE has put up some major roadblocks to
>     creating a community.  Clearly, they are looking for projects the
>     size of OpenStack, rather than Sakai.
>     Perhaps we can ask Neal to look into getting the Atlassian Question
>     plugin and give it a go.  From the adverts on the Atlassian site, it
>     seems very similar (ie, knock off) of SE, including reputation.
>
>     - Mark
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Steve Swinsburg __
>         Sent: Jun 11, 2014 9:21 AM
>         To: "Mark J. Norton" __
>         Cc: Matthew Jones __, Aaron Zeckoski __,
>         "sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
>         <mailto:sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org>" __
>         Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] Stack exchange site
>
>         I've approached the steering committees of the other major
>         Apereo projects (uPortal, CAS and Bedework) to see if they are
>         interested in an Apereo wide SE site - may be a few weeks before
>         I hear back as they will need to discuss. Its worth trying
>         everything though, give the plugin a go and lets see what it
>         looks like.
>
>         I do like the openness and socialness (is that a word?) of the
>         Stack Exchange sites though. I think we can get some good
>         exposure that way rather than with confluence.
>
>         cheers,
>         Steve
>
>
>
>
>         On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:48 PM, <markjnorton at earthlink.net
>         <mailto:markjnorton at earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
>             I didn't see any further discussion on this topic.  Neal and
>             I proposed the Confluence plugin approach in Miami.  Should
>             we give that a try?
>
>
>             - Mark Norton
>
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From: Matthew Jones __
>                 Sent: Jun 7, 2014 8:27 PM
>                 To: Aaron Zeckoski __
>                 Cc: "sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org
>                 <mailto:sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org>" __
>                 Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] Stack exchange site
>
>                 Yeah, looking at the entire workflow, I think the bigger
>                 problem is the commitment phase. To actually get a site
>                 through to commitment phase you have to have the
>                 "minimum" of three scores
>
>                 - 200 total confirmed committers (up from the 60)
>                 - 100 of of the committers have to have 200+ rep on
>                 Stack Overflow
>                 - Some formula related to commitment score
>                 (http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/53650/area-51-commit-percent/53733#53733)
>
>                 Look at a topic like "Latin Language" that is only 50%
>                 through commitment with 100 committed
>                 (http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/48247/latin-language)
>
>                 Not to be pessimistic but I can't realistically see a
>                 Sakai only space getting that much activity. I think our
>                 only options are
>                 - The confluence plugin mentioned at the PMC meeting,
>                 - Suggesting people to post questions to regular Stack
>                 OverFlow with Sakai Tag and periodically watching the
>                 Sakai tag
>                 (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/sakai).
>                 Participating with voting and answering is good for rep.
>
>
>
>
>                 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Aaron Zeckoski
>                 <azeckoski at unicon.net <mailto:azeckoski at unicon.net>> wrote:
>
>                     We have 10 example questions so we need another 30
>                     questions and about
>                     380 more votes (at a minimum). I still think the
>                     plan should be to get
>                     the 40 questions (or maybe 45) in there first and
>                     then we will use the
>                     dev list to get the votes in there.
>                     -AZ
>
>                     On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Steve Swinsburg
>                     <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com
>                     <mailto:steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>                      > Yep I've used up my questions and votes too.
>                     Everyone else if you can pose
>                      > some questions and vote up the others that would
>                     be good.
>                      >
>                      > sent from my mobile device
>                      >
>                      > On 07/06/2014 8:10 AM, "Aaron Zeckoski"
>                     <azeckoski at unicon.net <mailto:azeckoski at unicon.net>>
>                     wrote:
>                      >>
>                      >> Makes sense. Still worth the discussion but I'm
>                     dropping the suggestion.
>                      >> I maxed out my questions so we just need a few
>                     others to do the same.
>                      >>
>                      >> On Jun 6, 2014 5:15 PM, "Steve Swinsburg"
>                     <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com
>                     <mailto:steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>>
>                      >> wrote:
>                      >>>
>                      >>> Yeah I think we need to keep the projects
>                     separate. The other projects
>                      >>> may not want to use this anyway.
>                      >>>
>                      >>> Also these are meant to be 40 example questions
>                     which then get voted on
>                      >>> to show we have a community. They don't need to
>                     be answered afaict. I am
>                      >>> unsure if they get transferred to the new
>                     community site.
>                      >>>
>                      >>> JFL we talked about this as an experiment to
>                     capture the technical
>                      >>> questions that come up on the dev list since
>                     the good info can be hard to
>                      >>> find unless you remember the thread
>                     date/subject etc.
>                      >>>
>                      >>> If anyone down votes I propose they lose commit
>                     rights ;)
>                      >>>
>                      >>> Back in AU now.
>                      >>>
>                      >>> Cheers all.
>                      >>> Steve
>                      >>>
>                      >>> sent from my mobile device
>                      >>>
>                      >>> On 07/06/2014 6:28 AM, "Charles Severance"
>                     <csev at umich.edu <mailto:csev at umich.edu>> wrote:
>                      >>>>
>                      >>>>
>                      >>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque
>                      >>>> <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr
>                     <mailto:jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>> wrote:
>                      >>>>
>                      >>>> Could someone tell me why you want to create
>                     such a space wether i's for
>                      >>>> Sakai or Apereo?
>                      >>>>
>                      >>>>
>                      >>>> I think that Sakai and CAS should be separate
>                     and there probably should
>                      >>>> not be an Apereo S.O.  There might be an
>                     ApereoOAE stackoverflow.
>                      >>>>
>                      >>>> The foundation is a structure for intellectual
>                     property and shared
>                      >>>> services - it is not the uber brand above each
>                     project.
>                      >>>>
>                      >>>> /Chuck
>                      >>>>
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