[sakai-pmc] Stack exchange site

Wed Jun 11 13:47:37 PDT 2014

They may appear to be major roadblocks but it may not end up being too
difficult. The 'beer' proposal is already in public beta, has less than 1
question per day, 61 avid users and 156 visits per day

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/48905/beer
http://beer.stackexchange.com/

I've received positive feedback from the uPortal SG, they are going to add
it as a discussion item.

We did agree to try this out at the PMC meeting, lets see where it goes.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:05 AM, <markjnorton at earthlink.net> wrote:

> >  I do like the openness and socialness (is that a word?)
>
> "Social Nature" might be a better way to put it.  :)
>
> Generally, I agree, but SE has put up some major roadblocks to creating a
> community.  Clearly, they are looking for projects the size of OpenStack,
> rather than Sakai.
> Perhaps we can ask Neal to look into getting the Atlassian Question plugin
> and give it a go.  From the adverts on the Atlassian site, it seems very
> similar (ie, knock off) of SE, including reputation.
>
> - Mark
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Swinsburg
> Sent: Jun 11, 2014 9:21 AM
> To: "Mark J. Norton"
> Cc: Matthew Jones , Aaron Zeckoski , "sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org"
> Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] Stack exchange site
>
> I've approached the steering committees of the other major Apereo projects
> (uPortal, CAS and Bedework) to see if they are interested in an Apereo wide
> SE site - may be a few weeks before I hear back as they will need to
> discuss. Its worth trying everything though, give the plugin a go and lets
> see what it looks like.
>
> I do like the openness and socialness (is that a word?) of the Stack
> Exchange sites though. I think we can get some good exposure that way
> rather than with confluence.
>
> cheers,
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:48 PM, <markjnorton at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> I didn't see any further discussion on this topic.  Neal and I proposed
>> the Confluence plugin approach in Miami.  Should we give that a try?
>>
>>
>> - Mark Norton
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matthew Jones
>> Sent: Jun 7, 2014 8:27 PM
>> To: Aaron Zeckoski
>> Cc: "sakai-pmc at collab.sakaiproject.org"
>> Subject: Re: [sakai-pmc] Stack exchange site
>>
>> Yeah, looking at the entire workflow, I think the bigger problem is the
>> commitment phase. To actually get a site through to commitment phase you
>> have to have the "minimum" of three scores
>>
>> - 200 total confirmed committers (up from the 60)
>> - 100 of of the committers have to have 200+ rep on Stack Overflow
>> - Some formula related to commitment score (
>> http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/53650/area-51-commit-percent/53733#53733
>> )
>>
>> Look at a topic like "Latin Language" that is only 50% through commitment
>> with 100 committed (
>> http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/48247/latin-language)
>>
>> Not to be pessimistic but I can't realistically see a Sakai only space
>> getting that much activity. I think our only options are
>> - The confluence plugin mentioned at the PMC meeting,
>> - Suggesting people to post questions to regular Stack OverFlow with
>> Sakai Tag and periodically watching the Sakai tag (
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/sakai). Participating with
>> voting and answering is good for rep.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We have 10 example questions so we need another 30 questions and about
>>> 380 more votes (at a minimum). I still think the plan should be to get
>>> the 40 questions (or maybe 45) in there first and then we will use the
>>> dev list to get the votes in there.
>>> -AZ
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Steve Swinsburg
>>> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Yep I've used up my questions and votes too. Everyone else if you can
>>> pose
>>> > some questions and vote up the others that would be good.
>>> >
>>> > sent from my mobile device
>>> >
>>> > On 07/06/2014 8:10 AM, "Aaron Zeckoski" <azeckoski at unicon.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Makes sense. Still worth the discussion but I'm dropping the
>>> suggestion.
>>> >> I maxed out my questions so we just need a few others to do the same.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jun 6, 2014 5:15 PM, "Steve Swinsburg" <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yeah I think we need to keep the projects separate. The other
>>> projects
>>> >>> may not want to use this anyway.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also these are meant to be 40 example questions which then get voted
>>> on
>>> >>> to show we have a community. They don't need to be answered afaict.
>>> I am
>>> >>> unsure if they get transferred to the new community site.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> JFL we talked about this as an experiment to capture the technical
>>> >>> questions that come up on the dev list since the good info can be
>>> hard to
>>> >>> find unless you remember the thread date/subject etc.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If anyone down votes I propose they lose commit rights ;)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Back in AU now.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers all.
>>> >>> Steve
>>> >>>
>>> >>> sent from my mobile device
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 07/06/2014 6:28 AM, "Charles Severance" <csev at umich.edu> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque
>>> >>>> <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Could someone tell me why you want to create such a space wether
>>> i's for
>>> >>>> Sakai or Apereo?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I think that Sakai and CAS should be separate and there probably
>>> should
>>> >>>> not be an Apereo S.O.  There might be an ApereoOAE stackoverflow.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The foundation is a structure for intellectual property and shared
>>> >>>> services - it is not the uber brand above each project.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> /Chuck
>>> >>>>
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