[Building Sakai] new web content tool error

Wed Jul 30 09:22:44 PDT 2014

Hi Adam,

Do you have any specific examples of URLs that have spaces?  We would 
need this in order to see if we can reproduce the problem. If we cannot 
reproduce it, no way to fix it.

Thanks,
Neal

> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
> July 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM
>
> No specific system but I’m sure our users will find one! Either that 
> or they’ll type in a URL which contains spaces.
>
> adam
>
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>
> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>
> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>
> *From:*Sam Ottenhoff [mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com]
> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 17:12
> *To:* Adam Marshall
> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] new web content tool error
>
> What system is providing your users with invalid characters?  How do 
> users arrive at links with spaces?
>
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> Sam Ottenhoff <mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com>
> July 30, 2014 at 12:11 PM
>
>
>     Our users will go nuts (technical term) if they have to manually
>     translate spaces to %20 in order to save a Web Content link.
>
>
>
> What system is providing your users with invalid characters?  How do 
> users arrive at links with spaces?
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> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
> July 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM
>
> I don’t dispute that URL should not contains spaces but the old Web 
> Content tool did accept them. I would imagine a good solution would be 
> to accept URLs with spaces but translate the space to %20 before 
> storing in the DB. The same goes for other disallowed characters.
>
> Our users will go nuts (technical term) if they have to manually 
> translate spaces to %20 in order to save a Web Content link.
>
> adam
>
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> <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk> **
>
> Dr A C Marshall, WebLearn Service Manager, University of Oxford.
>
> IT Services, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford. OX2 6NN.
>
> *From:*Sam Ottenhoff [mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com]
> *Sent:* 30 July 2014 16:01
> *To:* Adam Marshall
> *Cc:* sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Building Sakai] new web content tool error
>
> Isn't a space invalid in a URL? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt
>
>    Characters can be unsafe for a number of reasons.  The space
>    character is unsafe because significant spaces may disappear and
>    insignificant spaces may be introduced when URLs are transcribed or
>    typeset or subjected to the treatment of word-processing programs.
>    The characters "<" and ">" are unsafe because they are used as the
>    delimiters around URLs in free text; the quote mark (""") is used to
>    delimit URLs in some systems.  The character "#" is unsafe and should
>    always be encoded because it is used in World Wide Web and in other
>    systems to delimit a URL from a fragment/anchor identifier that might
>    follow it.  The character "%" is unsafe because it is used for
>    encodings of other characters.  Other characters are unsafe because
>    gateways and other transport agents are known to sometimes modify
>    such characters. These characters are "{", "}", "|", "\", "^", "~",
>    "[", "]", and "`".
>    All unsafe characters must always be encoded within a URL.
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Adam Marshall 
> <adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
> You can't have a target URL that contains a space in the new Web 
> Content tool.
>
> Is that deliberate? It's breaking loads of our pages. A blocker.
>
> adam
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> Sam Ottenhoff <mailto:ottenhoff at longsight.com>
> July 30, 2014 at 11:00 AM
> Isn't a space invalid in a URL? http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1738.txt
>
>
> Characters can be unsafe for a number of reasons. The space
> character is unsafe because significant spaces may disappear and
> insignificant spaces may be introduced when URLs are transcribed or
> typeset or subjected to the treatment of word-processing programs.
> The characters "<" and ">" are unsafe because they are used as the
> delimiters around URLs in free text; the quote mark (""") is used to
> delimit URLs in some systems. The character "#" is unsafe and should
> always be encoded because it is used in World Wide Web and in other
> systems to delimit a URL from a fragment/anchor identifier that might
> follow it. The character "%" is unsafe because it is used for
> encodings of other characters. Other characters are unsafe because
> gateways and other transport agents are known to sometimes modify
> such characters. These characters are "{", "}", "|", "\", "^", "~",
> "[", "]", and "`".
>
> All unsafe characters must always be encoded within a URL.
>
>
>
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> Adam Marshall <mailto:adam.marshall at it.ox.ac.uk>
> July 30, 2014 at 10:52 AM
> You can't have a target URL that contains a space in the new Web 
> Content tool.
>
> Is that deliberate? It's breaking loads of our pages. A blocker.
>
> adam
>
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>
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>
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>
>
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