[Building Sakai] SAKAI 10

Karen Tsao ktsao at stanford.edu
Thu Feb 20 11:14:15 PST 2014


Sounds good to me. If there is no object, I can make the change.

Thanks,
Karen

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>wrote:

> Thanks Karen!
>
> That would make sense. It looks to me like the default for this property
> is false.
>
> Would there be any reason not to make the default value of this property
> be true so that the print shows up with Sakai OOTB?
>
> Not asking for any actions, just opinions, since for Sakai 10 we are
> trying to turn on as many safe features by default as possible.
>
> -- Neal
>
>
>   Karen Tsao <ktsao at stanford.edu>
>  February 20, 2014 at 1:26 PM
> Regarding #2, I just verified in Sakai 11 nightly (
> http://nightly2.sakaiproject.org:8082/portal) and I can see the Print
> option. Can you please check if you have this property set in your
> sakai.properties:
>
> samigo.printAssessment=true
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
>
>
>   igor Novopashenny <Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
>  February 20, 2014 at 3:11 AM
>
> Hi Neal!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [
> mailto:sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org<sakai-dev-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org>]
> *Im Auftrag von *Neal Caidin
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 19. Februar 2014 20:23
> *An:* igor Novopashenny
> *Cc:* Sakai QA; sakai-dev at collab.sakaiproject.org
> *Betreff:* Re: [Building Sakai] SAKAI 10
>
>
>
> Hi Igor!
>
> Lots of great questions!  I wonder if breaking them into separate email
> threads would help? Not sure.
>
> I'll try addressing a few and we will see where the conversation goes.
>
> #1. I wonder if this could be related to the Roster tool being deprecated
> for the Roster 2 tool? In that case you might need to redo those
> translations. Just a guess.
>
> I checked all English properties, but didn't find no properties that are
> not translated into Russian.   So may be there are new properties, that are
> not included in the .Properties?
>
>
> #2 What version had a print in Test and Quizzes? Maybe you can print from
> your browser to get what you need? I'm not clear if this is a bug or a new
> feature request.
>
> Till Sakai  2.9.2  the print Option was there. I' m not quite sure, but I
> think, that  this option disappeared in trunk in the end of November 2013.
>
>
>
> #3 Do you mean Extra Credit in the Gradebook? I haven't tested this yet,
> but how I would expect this to work is only to add positively to a
> student's grade and not negatively. For example, let's say that the only
> items for a class are one assignment and one Extra Credit item. Then if two
> students both have a grade of 89 on the assignment (by random coincidence
> ;-) ) and one does the extra credit and earns 10 points and the other
> student does not do the extra credit, then one student would end up with a
> 99 and the other would still be an 89. The concept of extra credit is extra
> work for a class that is not required, but if you do it, you will get some
> points for it. Please note: I have not yet tested this feature so I'm not
> entirely sure of the expected behavior. This is just how I imagine it would
> work.
>
> Thank you for the explanation. It can really be so.
>
>
>
> #4 You have to add a Short Description into Site Info and then it should
> work. I'm pretty sure I have tested this feature on our QA servers and it
> works fine.
>
> Now I see that it is misunderstanding. I thought, that the tabs titles
> would change in the upper navigation. Now I understand, that only the Names
> shown in the Preferences are effected.
>
>
> #5 Not sure off the top of my head, maybe somebody else knows?
>
> #6 This Jira might be of interest to you -
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-23662
>
> May be I don't understand something, but it seems to me that the usage of
> different kind  Calendar  in all tools is rather confusing.
>
> I mean following tools (Tests, Gradebook, Lessons, Syllabus)
>
>
>
>
> #7 Not sure.
>
> #8 Yikes! This could be a blocker issue for Sakai 10. Did you try and
> reproduce on either trunk or the new nightly 10.x server (which did not
> exist when you sent this email so how could you?! :-) ) ? If this continues
> to be a problem, please open a Jira ticket
>
> Here,  it works today.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai Community Coordinator
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai Community Coordinator
> Apereo Foundation
> neal.caidin at apereo.org
> Skype me! (but let me know in advance for the first interaction) - nealkdin
>   Neal Caidin <neal.caidin at apereo.org>
>  February 19, 2014 at 2:23 PM
>  Hi Igor!
>
> Lots of great questions!  I wonder if breaking them into separate email
> threads would help? Not sure.
>
> I'll try addressing a few and we will see where the conversation goes.
>
> #1. I wonder if this could be related to the Roster tool being deprecated
> for the Roster 2 tool? In that case you might need to redo those
> translations. Just a guess.
>
> #2 What version had a print in Test and Quizzes? Maybe you can print from
> your browser to get what you need? I'm not clear if this is a bug or a new
> feature request.
>
> #3 Do you mean Extra Credit in the Gradebook? I haven't tested this yet,
> but how I would expect this to work is only to add positively to a
> student's grade and not negatively. For example, let's say that the only
> items for a class are one assignment and one Extra Credit item. Then if two
> students both have a grade of 89 on the assignment (by random coincidence
> ;-) ) and one does the extra credit and earns 10 points and the other
> student does not do the extra credit, then one student would end up with a
> 99 and the other would still be an 89. The concept of extra credit is extra
> work for a class that is not required, but if you do it, you will get some
> points for it. Please note: I have not yet tested this feature so I'm not
> entirely sure of the expected behavior. This is just how I imagine it would
> work.
>
>
> #4 You have to add a Short Description into Site Info and then it should
> work. I'm pretty sure I have tested this feature on our QA servers and it
> works fine.
>
>
> #5 Not sure off the top of my head, maybe somebody else knows?
>
> #6 This Jira might be of interest to you -
> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-23662
>
> #7 Not sure.
>
> #8 Yikes! This could be a blocker issue for Sakai 10. Did you try and
> reproduce on either trunk or the new nightly 10.x server (which did not
> exist when you sent this email so how could you?! :-) ) ? If this continues
> to be a problem, please open a Jira ticket.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai Community Coordinator
>
>
>
>   igor Novopashenny <Igor at escience.uni-bremen.de>
>  February 18, 2014 at 3:53 AM
>
> Hi!
>
> I'm working on the Russian translation and  test the Sakai version.
>
> Just now I tried the SAKAI 10 Version from here:
>
> *sakai-10.x maintenance/release branch*
>
> Get it: svn co
> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/sakai/branches/sakai-10.x/ sakai-10.x
>
> Version: 10-SNAPSHOT (r306124)
>
>
>
> I have several questions and remarks to this version.
>
> 1.      Roster tool. In the Version 2.9 I've translated the Name and
> description of the Roster tool into Russian language, but now it is again
> in English and I can't find any untranslated "Roster" in the properties.
> All inside the tool remains in Russian.
>
> 2.      Tests &Quizzes. I miss now "Print" in the selections list. How it
> is possible to print the questions?
>
> 3.      Gradebook. I see the new option "Extra Grade", but can't
> understand what does it mean. Can somebody explain this option?
>
> 4.      My Workspace àPreferences. I see an option:
>
> Show tabs as:
>
>  Course code (e.g. F13-ACCT-134C-01)
>
>  Course name/description (e.g. First Year Accounting)
>
>
>
> But I don't see any difference if I change this option.  Can somebody
> explain this option?
>
> 5.      Syllabus. There are  new option "Click to add start date" and
> "Click to add the end date" . If I click these options, the new window with
> the title "start date" appears. For the end date there is no title.  Is it
> ok?
>
> 6.      Several new calendars are used in different tolls. Is it really
> planed so?
> *Tests & Quizzes*
>
> *Syllabus*
>
>
>
>  Or
>
> This kind of the calendar is also used in
>
> *the Assignment tool.*
>
> *Gradebook*
>
> *Lessons*
>
>
>
> 7.      Lessons The button Delete appears quite different. Was it planed
> so?
>
> 8.      *Polls* I tried to add a new Poll and got an Error:
> Fatal internal error handling request:
>
> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError:
> org.sakaiproject.poll.model.Poll.getVoteOpenStr()Ljava/lang/String;
>
>        at
> org.sakaiproject.poll.tool.producers.AddPollProducer.fillComponents(AddPollProducer.java:254)
>
>        at
> uk.org.ponder.rsf.view.support.ViewCollector.fillComponents(ViewCollector.java:56)
>
>        at
> uk.org.ponder.rsf.view.support.LayoutCollector.fillComponents(LayoutCollector.java:68)
>
>        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>
>        at
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57)
>
>        at
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>
>        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606)
>
>
>
> Regards Igor
>
>
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> --
> Neal Caidin
> Sakai Community Coordinator
> Apereo Foundation
> neal.caidin at apereo.org
> Skype me! (but let me know in advance for the first interaction) - nealkdin
>
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