[Building Sakai] samigo-app

Mon Jul 29 11:41:25 PDT 2013

John,

Thank you for the reply.

I would be using it to capture exam data for healthcare education (from a
healthcare portal), in theory. Many of the academic requirements of Sakai
do not apply for what I would want to to. In fact, if I were to use Samigo,
I would probably need to start an entirely new project and branch the
source code because the requirements would be quite different. I am just
looking for something to build on that provides strong exam features and
analytics of that data. If I can get something running standalone, that
would help me better evaluate the product.

I am surprised by the interdependencies of Sakai when I look at the pom
files. It seems like it would be difficult to separate out Samigo, like you
say, the more I look at it.

I am just researching the best options, and at a very high level Samigo
looks compelling. However, the deeper I look, the more I realize maybe it's
too tied to Sakai to be a viable option.

As far as students and enrollment, I would likely need to create a new
controller into Samigo using SSO to enroll learners. That would need more
analysis.

Thanks,
Eric

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:25 PM, John Bush <jbush at anisakai.com> wrote:

> The article from Anthony Whyte you mention is concerning independent
> releases (indies).  That is not the same thing as running Samigo
> standalone (outside of the rest of Sakai). Indies are solely a release
> practice so that Samigo (or other tools) could release outside of the
> entire code base.  Indies are actually going to be unravelled soon.
>
> As far as I know, it's not possible to run Samigo standalone, and
> unwinding it would probably be a large effort.  You are probably
> better off thinking about how to expose it within Sakai as it lives
> now.  For example, Sakai can operate as a LTI producer, you could
> expose Samigo like that.  I think we'd need to have more information
> about your requirements in order to give you more advice.  Are you
> intending on wrapping it inside another LMS, as part of some other
> portal, or what ?  How are things like students, and enrollments
> managed?  Etc, etc.
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Eric Murphy <murphye at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mathew,
> >
> > Thank you for the response. However, I believe we may be talking about
> > different projects? I am referring to this project, which seems to be a
> > samigo standalone web app?:
> > https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/sam/trunk/samigo-app/
> >
> > I am able to build a WAR using this code, but I am not sure what the
> state
> > of all of this code is.
> >
> > This article may also be of interest from Anthony Whyte (CCed in this
> e-mail
> > now):
> >
> http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2009-November/004567.html
> >
> > I am very unfamiliar with Sakai/Samigo, so I am trying to understand what
> > the dependancies are between the projects. If it's not possible to run
> > Samigo standalone, I believe that would be a great capability to
> resurrect
> > as there is always a need for better online exam tools. Samigo is unique
> in
> > being open source and Java code.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> According to https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-14898, Samigo
> hasn't
> >> worked Standalone in over 5 years since Sakai 2.5.
> >>
> >> The parent references Sakai master, Sakai services (edu-services) and
> >> kernel. I think you'd have to do a good amount of work to have it
> running
> >> without at least a minimal set of Sakai core services because of all the
> >> integration with other tools it supports in the latest versions.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Eric Murphy <murphye at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I am currently evaluating SAMigo for doing online assessments. The
> >>> feature-set looks good, as well as it being open source and Java. The
> rest
> >>> of Sakai is not needed for my needs.
> >>>
> >>> I pulled down both trunk and 2.9.2 and tried to build and run the
> >>> samigo-app. When I try to import it as a Maven project into Eclipse, I
> get
> >>> several errors of many varieties when it comes to JSPs. Additionally,
> while
> >>> doing mvn install seems to complete successfully (building the Java)
> and
> >>> build a WAR, I still need some instruction on actually getting the app
> up
> >>> and running.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe someone could update or write an article on Confluence on how to
> >>> get samigo-app imported into Eclipse without error and also get it
> running
> >>> on a local Tomcat instance as its own webapp? Would be much
> appreciated!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Eric
> >>>
> >>> P.S. samigo-app is the only project with errors, all of the others look
> >>> fine in Eclipse.
> >>>
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