[Building Sakai] samigo-app

Mon Jul 29 14:10:55 PDT 2013

Hi Eric

It sounds like your best bet here is to get a minimal Sakai install up and running then use LTI to connect your portal to Samigo. Users will only see the portal and the app as a portlet, and not Sakai. What portal are you using? If it supports standard JSR168 portlets then this is for you:

https://wiki.jasig.org/display/PLT/Basic+LTI+Portlet

And I'd be only too happy to help you get this up and running as it sounds like an interesting project. 

Cheers
Steve

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On 30/07/2013, at 4:41, Eric Murphy <murphye at gmail.com> wrote:

> John,
> 
> Thank you for the reply.
> 
> I would be using it to capture exam data for healthcare education (from a healthcare portal), in theory. Many of the academic requirements of Sakai do not apply for what I would want to to. In fact, if I were to use Samigo, I would probably need to start an entirely new project and branch the source code because the requirements would be quite different. I am just looking for something to build on that provides strong exam features and analytics of that data. If I can get something running standalone, that would help me better evaluate the product.
> 
> I am surprised by the interdependencies of Sakai when I look at the pom files. It seems like it would be difficult to separate out Samigo, like you say, the more I look at it. 
> 
> I am just researching the best options, and at a very high level Samigo looks compelling. However, the deeper I look, the more I realize maybe it's too tied to Sakai to be a viable option.
> 
> As far as students and enrollment, I would likely need to create a new controller into Samigo using SSO to enroll learners. That would need more analysis.
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:25 PM, John Bush <jbush at anisakai.com> wrote:
>> The article from Anthony Whyte you mention is concerning independent
>> releases (indies).  That is not the same thing as running Samigo
>> standalone (outside of the rest of Sakai). Indies are solely a release
>> practice so that Samigo (or other tools) could release outside of the
>> entire code base.  Indies are actually going to be unravelled soon.
>> 
>> As far as I know, it's not possible to run Samigo standalone, and
>> unwinding it would probably be a large effort.  You are probably
>> better off thinking about how to expose it within Sakai as it lives
>> now.  For example, Sakai can operate as a LTI producer, you could
>> expose Samigo like that.  I think we'd need to have more information
>> about your requirements in order to give you more advice.  Are you
>> intending on wrapping it inside another LMS, as part of some other
>> portal, or what ?  How are things like students, and enrollments
>> managed?  Etc, etc.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Eric Murphy <murphye at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Mathew,
>> >
>> > Thank you for the response. However, I believe we may be talking about
>> > different projects? I am referring to this project, which seems to be a
>> > samigo standalone web app?:
>> > https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/sam/trunk/samigo-app/
>> >
>> > I am able to build a WAR using this code, but I am not sure what the state
>> > of all of this code is.
>> >
>> > This article may also be of interest from Anthony Whyte (CCed in this e-mail
>> > now):
>> > http://collab.sakaiproject.org/pipermail/sakai-dev/2009-November/004567.html
>> >
>> > I am very unfamiliar with Sakai/Samigo, so I am trying to understand what
>> > the dependancies are between the projects. If it's not possible to run
>> > Samigo standalone, I believe that would be a great capability to resurrect
>> > as there is always a need for better online exam tools. Samigo is unique in
>> > being open source and Java code.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Eric
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Matthew Jones <matthew at longsight.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> According to https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-14898, Samigo hasn't
>> >> worked Standalone in over 5 years since Sakai 2.5.
>> >>
>> >> The parent references Sakai master, Sakai services (edu-services) and
>> >> kernel. I think you'd have to do a good amount of work to have it running
>> >> without at least a minimal set of Sakai core services because of all the
>> >> integration with other tools it supports in the latest versions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Eric Murphy <murphye at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello Everyone,
>> >>>
>> >>> I am currently evaluating SAMigo for doing online assessments. The
>> >>> feature-set looks good, as well as it being open source and Java. The rest
>> >>> of Sakai is not needed for my needs.
>> >>>
>> >>> I pulled down both trunk and 2.9.2 and tried to build and run the
>> >>> samigo-app. When I try to import it as a Maven project into Eclipse, I get
>> >>> several errors of many varieties when it comes to JSPs. Additionally, while
>> >>> doing mvn install seems to complete successfully (building the Java) and
>> >>> build a WAR, I still need some instruction on actually getting the app up
>> >>> and running.
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe someone could update or write an article on Confluence on how to
>> >>> get samigo-app imported into Eclipse without error and also get it running
>> >>> on a local Tomcat instance as its own webapp? Would be much appreciated!
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Eric
>> >>>
>> >>> P.S. samigo-app is the only project with errors, all of the others look
>> >>> fine in Eclipse.
>> >>>
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