[Building Sakai] Change proposal for 2.8: export_filename_date_format (i18n to configuration)

[Jean-Francois Leveque]

Right now it seems to me User Membership and SiteStats are using a date 
only format like Gradebook, Roster and Tests & Quizzes (Samigo).

I think my proposal is mostly refactoring.

Adding the time is a feature request, as far as I can tell.

Feel free to add this feature request to tools where needed. We should 
factor this if the feature request is validated in at least two tools.

regards
Jean-François

Feliz Gouveia a écrit :
> no, it also seems more familiar to me. In the piece of code I sent
> that's also the pattern used, the time part is useful to make
> filenames different even if built the same day.
> 
> regards
> Feliz
> 
> On 23 July 2010 10:40, Jean-Francois Leveque
> <jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr> wrote:
>> It seems most people answering are ready to go for ISO's yyyy-MM-dd.
>>
>> Any objection, Feliz?
>>
>> J-F
>>
>> Feliz Gouveia a écrit :
>>> I'm not sure that suits your needs, I usually do something like:
>>>
>>> DateTime dt = new DateTime();
>>> DateTimeFormatter fmt = DateTimeFormat.forPattern("yyyy-MM-dd_HHmmss");
>>> return name+dt.toString(fmt);
>>>
>>> of course the pattern part can be localized if needed, and there are
>>> no spaces (just '-'). As for the name part, I replace spaces by
>>> underscores, and chop the filename so that adding the date part does
>>> not exceed 31 chars (because of windows limitations, I guess).
>>>
>>> Feliz
>>>
>>> On 22 July 2010 15:15, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
>>>> Sorry -- I misunderstood. Setting the ISO default once is best.
>>>>
>>>> - Beth
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think most non-English locale users are not comfortable with
>>>>> English format.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why I was suggesting using a ISO default and being able to
>>>>> set the format through configuration once instead of 5 times through
>>>>> localization right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> How is it less simple than your suggestion?
>>>>>
>>>>> J-F
>>>>>
>>>>> Beth Kirschner a écrit :
>>>>>> Possibly true, but just aiming to simplify localization. I'm
>>>>>> doubtful most translators will know how to 'localize' the date
>>>>>> format string, so as long as folks are comfortable with most
>>>>>> locales defaulting to a US format, than this shouldn't be a problem.
>>>>>> - Beth
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>>> I think your suggestion is not as simple as needed and may be
>>>>>>> risky. Are we sure we only need to remove spaces in every locale
>>>>>>> to have a suitable string for part of a file name? I wouldn't bet
>>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J-F
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beth Kirschner a écrit :
>>>>>>>> I would suggest formatting the date automatically, leveraging the
>>>>>>>> Java DateFormat.getDateFormat() which takes Locale as an
>>>>>>>> argument. The resulting date string can then be transformed into
>>>>>>>> a suitable filename by removing spaces. Automating this would be
>>>>>>>> one less thing to worry about when localizing Sakai.
>>>>>>>> - Beth
>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think export_filename_date_format (used in Gradebook, Roster,
>>>>>>>>> Tests &
>>>>>>>>> Quizzes (Samigo), User Membership and SiteStats) is not a i18n
>>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>>> but a configuration property.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because it's used in several tools, I would like it to become a
>>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>>> configuration property.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I propose to use the name general.export_filename_date_format in
>>>>>>>>> configuration and to set its default to the ISO date format of
>>>>>>>>> yyyy-MM-dd.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For further details and related problems, you can check:
>>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-17240
>>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/STAT-191
>>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-15872
>>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-15682
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do the code owners and others devs think?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois
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>>
>> --
>> Jean-François Lévêque
>> Responsable technique Sakai
>> Université Pierre et Marie Curie
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Francois Leveque
>> Sakai CTO
>> University Pierre and Marie Curie
>> France