[Building Sakai] Change proposal for 2.8: export_filename_date_format (i18n to configuration)

[Daniel Robinson]

+1 for switching to ISO format of yyyy-MM-dd

Daniel

On 23 Jul 2010, at 10:40, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:

> It seems most people answering are ready to go for ISO's yyyy-MM-dd.
>
> Any objection, Feliz?
>
> J-F
>
> Feliz Gouveia a écrit :
>> I'm not sure that suits your needs, I usually do something like:
>>
>> DateTime dt = new DateTime();
>> DateTimeFormatter fmt = DateTimeFormat.forPattern("yyyy-MM- 
>> dd_HHmmss");
>> return name+dt.toString(fmt);
>>
>> of course the pattern part can be localized if needed, and there are
>> no spaces (just '-'). As for the name part, I replace spaces by
>> underscores, and chop the filename so that adding the date part does
>> not exceed 31 chars (because of windows limitations, I guess).
>>
>> Feliz
>>
>> On 22 July 2010 15:15, Beth Kirschner <bkirschn at umich.edu> wrote:
>>> Sorry -- I misunderstood. Setting the ISO default once is best.
>>>
>>> - Beth
>>>
>>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think most non-English locale users are not comfortable with
>>>> English format.
>>>>
>>>> This is why I was suggesting using a ISO default and being able to
>>>> set the format through configuration once instead of 5 times  
>>>> through
>>>> localization right now.
>>>>
>>>> How is it less simple than your suggestion?
>>>>
>>>> J-F
>>>>
>>>> Beth Kirschner a écrit :
>>>>> Possibly true, but just aiming to simplify localization. I'm
>>>>> doubtful most translators will know how to 'localize' the date
>>>>> format string, so as long as folks are comfortable with most
>>>>> locales defaulting to a US format, than this shouldn't be a  
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> - Beth
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>> I think your suggestion is not as simple as needed and may be
>>>>>> risky. Are we sure we only need to remove spaces in every locale
>>>>>> to have a suitable string for part of a file name? I wouldn't bet
>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J-F
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beth Kirschner a écrit :
>>>>>>> I would suggest formatting the date automatically, leveraging  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Java DateFormat.getDateFormat() which takes Locale as an
>>>>>>> argument. The resulting date string can then be transformed into
>>>>>>> a suitable filename by removing spaces. Automating this would be
>>>>>>> one less thing to worry about when localizing Sakai.
>>>>>>> - Beth
>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think export_filename_date_format (used in Gradebook, Roster,
>>>>>>>> Tests &
>>>>>>>> Quizzes (Samigo), User Membership and SiteStats) is not a i18n
>>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>> but a configuration property.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because it's used in several tools, I would like it to become a
>>>>>>>> general
>>>>>>>> configuration property.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I propose to use the name general.export_filename_date_format  
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> configuration and to set its default to the ISO date format of
>>>>>>>> yyyy-MM-dd.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For further details and related problems, you can check:
>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-17240
>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/STAT-191
>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-15872
>>>>>>>> http://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-15682
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What do the code owners and others devs think?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois
>>>>
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