[Building Sakai] Moodle export/import suitability for Sakai 3

[Speelmon, Lance Day]

Mark,

That was the conclusion I was reaching as well, but I did not want to be the first person to say it.  :)  I agree that their course backup format looks way too specific to the Moodle data model.  While they do have a more reasonable format for test and quiz questions, that does not go very far towards helping us with a complete transition (i.e. export from Sakai 2, import to Sakai 3).  http://docs.moodle.org/en/Moodle_XML

<http://docs.moodle.org/en/Moodle_XML>*(Thinking out loud warning)* - If we chose to go down the IMS-CP or IMS-CC path, would we not be looking at a serious profile (i.e. deviation) from the standards?  And if the deviation is extensive, then are they a good starting point?  I have no strong opinion on the matter and would like to hear what you and others think.  Thanks, L


Lance Speelmon
Scholarly Technologist

On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:15 PM, <markjnorton at earthlink.net<mailto:markjnorton at earthlink.net>> <markjnorton at earthlink.net<mailto:markjnorton at earthlink.net>> wrote:

I had a look at the manifest file (moodle.xml).

It seems to me that a great deal of this information is highly specific to Moodle.  Half of it relates to authorization.  The Gradebook stuff will greatly depend on what gets implemented in Sakai3, which I assume will be heavily based on the Gradebook2 work recently done by UCD.  The module definitions are, again, highly Moodle specific.

I've seen similar files for Blackboard and WebCT.  They are not intended to be an interchage format.  Rather, they are a backup and restore mechanism.

It might be better to work with Moodle to agree on an interchange model based on IMS-CP, perhaps drawing on some of the recent IMS-CC work.  Bastardizing their internal format will do neither of us any good, IMO.

- Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: "Speelmon, Lance Day"
Sent: Sep 16, 2009 4:35 PM
To: sakai-dev List
Subject: Re: [Building Sakai] Moodle export/import suitability for Sakai 3

I could use a second pair of eyes on the Moodle backup format.  I managed to get the latest build of Moodle up and running and then created a sample backup zip file.  We are trying to determine suitability of their format as an export/import format for Sakai 3.  Grab the sample below and provide any feedback you have on the wiki page.  Thanks, L

http://confluence.sakaiproject.org//x/ERLtAw


Lance Speelmon
Scholarly Technologist

On Aug 17, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Speelmon, Lance Day wrote:

As we prepare to start working on a Sakai 2 -> Sakai 3 migration effort, I would like to help organize community contributions.  There are a number of roles and skills that need to be filled and your participation would be highly valued.

What can be done immediately:

1) Collaborate on defining the migration project plan.
2) Investigate LTI as an underlying mechanism for exposing Sakai 2 tools within the Saki 3 portal.
3) Investigate Moodle's export/import architecture and file formats.
4) Develop a Sakai 2 Resources (i.e. ContentHosting) to Sakai 3 JCR data conversion.

If any of these tasks sound interesting or you have other ideas you would like to share, please use the wiki space below.  Please take the time to declare your area of interest on the Contributors page.

http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/KERNDOC/Migration

<http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/display/KERNDOC/Migration>Thanks!  L


Lance Speelmon
Scholarly Technologist

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