[Building Sakai] Assignment+Gradebook integration: "Save" grade

[Branden Visser]

Thanks for the thorough reply Zhen.

One suggestion for #2 when saving an assignment that is released to 
students in gradebook: I'm thinking assignments should remove the grade 
from gradebook here. It is the only way for an instructor to "take back" 
a single grade that could have been mistakenly graded. The way you 
described it, an instructor cannot "revoke" a grade action without 
releasing a new one.

Is there a wiki available detailing how Assignments2 is handling these 
workflows?

Thanks,
Branden

Zhen Qian wrote:
> Branden:
> 
> The inconsistency comes from both Assignment and Gradebook can save or
> release the grades, and also the linked assignment in Gradebook can be
> either internal Gradebook assignment or externally created assignment.
> 
> However, it doesn't seems right that Assignment tool tries to remove
> Gradebook grades when instructor saves grade at Assignment tool side.
> 
> I listed the possible Assignment-Gradebook interactions in the following. 
> 
> 
> 1. Linked to internal Gradebook assignment:
> 
> Gradebook Setting           release to student           not release to
> student
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Assignment save           Gradebook no action            Gradebook update
> Assignment return         Gradebook  update              Gradebook update
> Gradebook save            Assignment return              Assignment save
> 
> 2. Linked to external Gradebook assignment:
> 
> Gradebook Setting           release to student           not release to
> student
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Assignment save             Gradebook no action          Gradebook update
> Assignment release          Gradebook update             Gradebook update
> NO GRADING FROM GRADEBOOK SIDE 
> 
> Any suggestions? I plan to update code accordingly, once the svn server is
> back again.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Zhen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:20:44 -0400, Branden Visser <branden at uwindsor.ca>
> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> There is an anomaly in assignments where if you link an assignment to an 
>> existing gradebook ("bi-directional"), you can't "Save" a grade that has 
>> already been released.
>>
>> Steps to reproduce:
>>
>> 1. create a gradebook entry
>> 2. create an assignment
>> 3. link the assignment to the gradebook entry
>> 4. assign a student a grade and "Release" it
>> 5. go back and change the student's grade, but "Save"
>>
>> You'll see that the student grade will hold on the latest 'released' 
>> grade that comes from gradebook.
>>
>> The problem seems to be that Assignments tries to "remove" the Gradebook 
>> grade through the integration API like unidirectional link does, but 
>> fails. I'm thinking that if the assignment is linked bi-directionally, a 
>> "Save" in assignments should update the gradebook entry so both 
>> assignments and gradebook will take the new value, as opposed to none of 
>> them.
>>
>> I can provide a patch for this if this is the way we want to go.
>>
>> What are your thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Branden
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