[Portfolio] Sakai 3-ish discussion

Josh Baron Josh.Baron at marist.edu
Mon Mar 16 11:37:11 PDT 2009

Nancy, et. al.,

Just thought I would jump in with some additional notes.

To answer one of the questions, the T&L group has not historically spent a 
great deal of time talking about portfolios but that is no due to a lack 
of interest, just limited bandwidth (and a sense of trust that this group 
is moving portfolio issues forward).  For example, Marist is using 
portfolios and active in the QA effort but we've not raised issues related 
to it on the T&L call.

I've love to have a joint meeting of the two groups.  If it works 
logistically, we could simply dedicate a weekly T&L call to such a 
meeting.  As I mentioned in my last posting, I think it might be best to 
do this after Michael's has distributed his Foundation update.

Let me know what you think.


Joshua Baron
Director, Academic Technology and eLearning
Marist College
Poughkeepsie, New York  12601
(845) 575-3623 (work)

"Nancy O'Laughlin" <nolaug at UDel.Edu>
Sean Keesler <sean at keesler.org>
"portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org" <portfolio at collab.sakaiproject.org>
03/16/2009 02:29 PM
Re: [Portfolio] Sakai 3-ish discussion

I talked to Mathieu a little this afternoon. There are actually four 
groups that meet. There is our OSP group, the Sakai UX group (Sakai3), 
the T&L (Teaching and Learning) group and an End User Group (which is 
documentation and support). It is the End User Group and the T&L group 
that try to get together once a month for a joint meeting. He gave Robin 
Hill's name as someone that is interested in both groups and acts as a 
contact between the groups. As Noah mentioned the UX group is busy 
getting ready for their upcoming release for Cambridge/GeorgiaTech so 
they have not met with the T&L group other than for a demo that Peter 
gave to the group. The primary topics in the T&L group have been the 
Teaching with Sakai Innovation Award, the upcoming conference in Boston 
and "Potential Vignette Use Case" and now a new Requirements process. 
For more information on the T&L group Mathieu keeps this site up to 
It seems the focus is primarily course/project related but it is hard to 
know if that is because no one involved in portfolios is active in this 
group. Probably the best thing to do is to get someone that is 
interested in both to sit in on their weekly conference calls and report 
back to our group or perhaps we should suggest a joint meeting with them 
to see how the two groups might interface with each other. For those 
that don't know they meet on Wednesdays at 11:30 - similar process as 

Sean Keesler wrote:
> Here are some notes I took from the community conference call during 
> our discussion of the future development:
> Relevant notes from 2009-03-16 OSP Community Call
> Sean reviewed the changed to the vignettes page 
> <http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/x/BoD3Ag> with the 
> group and suggested that a next step would be to come up with a 
> strategy for introducing this to the Sakai3 working group. Noah has 
> been keeping his finger on the pulse of Sakai 3, but others probably 
> could also participate. Sean asked if others would be willing and able 
> to participate in conversations with the UX and T&L group, and if so, 
> how do we best do that? Noah mentioned that there is a weekly UX call 
> that could be used, but that the main conversations for Sakai3 are 
> small conversations over Skype and the Sakai 001 bridge with Nathan 
> and a small group of developers. This group is under a lot of pressure 
> to release a version of Sakai 3 for Cambridge/GeorgiaTech and we are 
> unlikely to have an impact on its direction.
> Perhaps a good strategy for interacting with the Sakai 3 WG would be 
> to do so in concert with the T&L group. We recognize that there is a 
> barrier between how we think. Lynn had mentioned last week that they 
> are primarily focused on course/project sites. It may be that the 
> readiness of the OSP are a barrier (in which case, we should talk with 
> them soon to ensure that this is not the case in the future). Nancy 
> mentioned that Matthiew Plourde attends the T&L calls and she would 
> ask him for a recommendation on how the T&L group is interacting with 
> the Sakai 3/UX group and report back next week.
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