[WG: I18N & L10N] Single quotes issue with crowdin

Alex Ballesté alexandre.balleste at udl.cat
Tue Apr 1 02:28:19 PDT 2014


The recommendation for "catalan" for apostrophe is to use ASCII 39 ' .  
I believe that if we'd apply the same solution you apply for french it 
wouldn't be well accepted for our users. :-( So I'll try asking to 
crowdin team and I'll keep i18n list updated.

Thanks for your suggestions

Alex

On 04/01/2014 11:01 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The solution I've found in French is to stop using single quote when 
> this happens. I also try not to use double quote. The French 
> translation team members, myself included, sometimes forget.
>
> When an apostrophe is needed, I use U+2019.
>
> When I have to do quoting, I do it the French way with U+00AB and 
> U+00BB. According to the French wikipedia page on the subject 
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillemet, they also are preferred in 
> Spanish.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Asking Crowdin support is also a good idea.
>
> J-F
>
> On 01/04/2014 10:30, Mark Breuker wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Perhaps you can ask Crowdin support?
>>
>> https://crowdin.net/contacts
>>
>> Mark
>> Mark Breuker
>> Functioneel Consultant
>> Tel.: +31 71 5451 203
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>> 2352 BA Leiderdorp
>> www.loi.nl
>> ________________________________________
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>> [i18n-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] namens Alex Ballesté 
>> [alexandre.balleste at udl.cat]
>> Verzonden: dinsdag 1 april 2014 10:22
>> Aan: i18n at collab.sakaiproject.org
>> Onderwerp: [WG: I18N & L10N] Single quotes issue with crowdin
>>
>> Hi, we detected an strange behaviour in crowdin that makes translation
>> more difficult for us.
>>
>> In sakai (or other java system that uses Message properties), when an
>> string bundle has an operator like {0} in the sentence and also contains
>> single quote characters ' ,  all this characters must be escaped putting
>> 2 single quotes. It's a bit tricky because only works for sentences with
>> {} operators.
>>
>> Example of how to write single quotes in order to be printed correctly:
>>
>> catalan:
>>
>> newope=La nova data d''obertura de l''activitat ''{0}'' \u00E9s {1}
>>
>> newassig.opedat=Data d'obertura
>>
>>
>> french :
>>
>> newope=Nouvelle date d''ouverture {1} pour le devoir ''{0}''.
>>
>> newassig.opedat=Date d'ouverture
>>
>>
>>
>> When you look at crowdin web you see:
>>
>> La nova data d'obertura de l'activitat '{0}' és {1}
>>
>> and
>>
>> Data d'obertura
>>
>> It seems correct at first look. You can think that later it'll handle 
>> correctly in the download, but when you download the zip file you got.
>>
>>
>> newope=La nova data d''obertura de l''activitat ''{0}'' \u00E9s {1}  
>> (OK it was escaped)
>>
>> newassig.opedat=Data d''obertura  (UPPPSSSS it must not be escaped)
>>
>> Is there a solution for this? We didn't find any options to handle that.
>> Do you know how to do it correctly? We will try to correct it manually
>> if there isn't a valid solution, but it's a lot of work.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Alex.
>>
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