[WG: I18N & L10N] Single quotes issue with crowdin

[Jean-Francois Leveque]

Sorry, forgot you're managing the "catalan" locale, S2U is kind of 
confusing because it's about Spanish being in Spain, not Spanish the 
language.

Hope you will forgive me proposing a Spanish solution. :(

J-F

On 01/04/2014 11:28, Alex Ballesté wrote:
> The recommendation for "catalan" for apostrophe is to use ASCII 39 ' . I
> believe that if we'd apply the same solution you apply for french it
> wouldn't be well accepted for our users. :-( So I'll try asking to
> crowdin team and I'll keep i18n list updated.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions
>
> Alex
>
> On 04/01/2014 11:01 AM, Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The solution I've found in French is to stop using single quote when
>> this happens. I also try not to use double quote. The French
>> translation team members, myself included, sometimes forget.
>>
>> When an apostrophe is needed, I use U+2019.
>>
>> When I have to do quoting, I do it the French way with U+00AB and
>> U+00BB. According to the French wikipedia page on the subject
>> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillemet, they also are preferred in
>> Spanish.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Asking Crowdin support is also a good idea.
>>
>> J-F
>>
>> On 01/04/2014 10:30, Mark Breuker wrote:
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> Perhaps you can ask Crowdin support?
>>>
>>> https://crowdin.net/contacts
>>>
>>> Mark
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>>> Onderwerp: [WG: I18N & L10N] Single quotes issue with crowdin
>>>
>>> Hi, we detected an strange behaviour in crowdin that makes translation
>>> more difficult for us.
>>>
>>> In sakai (or other java system that uses Message properties), when an
>>> string bundle has an operator like {0} in the sentence and also contains
>>> single quote characters ' ,  all this characters must be escaped putting
>>> 2 single quotes. It's a bit tricky because only works for sentences with
>>> {} operators.
>>>
>>> Example of how to write single quotes in order to be printed correctly:
>>>
>>> catalan:
>>>
>>> newope=La nova data d''obertura de l''activitat ''{0}'' \u00E9s {1}
>>>
>>> newassig.opedat=Data d'obertura
>>>
>>>
>>> french :
>>>
>>> newope=Nouvelle date d''ouverture {1} pour le devoir ''{0}''.
>>>
>>> newassig.opedat=Date d'ouverture
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When you look at crowdin web you see:
>>>
>>> La nova data d'obertura de l'activitat '{0}' és {1}
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> Data d'obertura
>>>
>>> It seems correct at first look. You can think that later it'll handle
>>> correctly in the download, but when you download the zip file you got.
>>>
>>>
>>> newope=La nova data d''obertura de l''activitat ''{0}'' \u00E9s {1}
>>> (OK it was escaped)
>>>
>>> newassig.opedat=Data d''obertura  (UPPPSSSS it must not be escaped)
>>>
>>> Is there a solution for this? We didn't find any options to handle that.
>>> Do you know how to do it correctly? We will try to correct it manually
>>> if there isn't a valid solution, but it's a lot of work.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Alex.
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