[WG: I18N & L10N] I18N & L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten

[Frédéric Dooremont]

Hi,
perfect, 
Benten works perfectly
thank you for your help

Best regards,

Le 22 févr. 2012 à 06:45, Shoji Kajita a écrit :

> Jean-Francois,
> 
> Although I created French TM from the scratch, I found that Benten's
> Exact-Match and Fussy-Match does not work well for fr_FR.
> 
> I'm asking this issue for Benten devel list now.
> 
> Shoji
> 
> At Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:05:59 +0100,
> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Shoji,
>> 
>> I'm afraid the Import Translation Target part is not clear for me yet.
>> 
>> J-F
>> 
>> On 16/02/2012 11:01, Shoji Kajita wrote:
>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
>>> 
>>> In the case of Linux, I think that Yuki's comments cover the
>>> topic. Although I haven't tried yet, Frederic has succeeded as far as
>>> I read his message.
>>> 
>>> I hope I can generate scaffolding TMs for all languages, when I have
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> Shoji at JFK
>>> 
>>> At Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:13:57 +0100,
>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Shoji,
>>>> 
>>>> What I would like to see detailed is:
>>>> - Generate a scaffolding Translation Memory to get started
>>>> - Import Translation Target
>>>> 
>>>> Jean-François
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/02/2012 05:55, Shoji Kajita wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois and Frederic,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here I attach the tentative document to use Benten for
>>>>> translation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shoji at HolidayInn SEA-TAC
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:53:35 +0900,
>>>>> Shoji Kajita wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for the informatin.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will give you my best practice with same examples soon to get
>>>>>> started and improve your translation work using Benten. I hope it will
>>>>>> dramatically improve your translation quality for French.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shoji at Bellevue, WA
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:48:53 +0100,
>>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Shoji, Yuki and Frederic,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did the TMX generation using Linux.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When does it fail for you on Mac OS X ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I still don't understand how the TM part of Benten works. I naively
>>>>>>> thought a TMX file could directly be used by Benten.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Frederic and myself need the whole recipe for making new translations
>>>>>>> with help from the old ones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> J-F
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14/02/2012 06:03, Shoji Kajita wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois and Yuki,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm now writing the instruciton to use Benten on Confuluence, but I
>>>>>>>> cannot generate TMX on Mac OS X based on Yuki's instruction.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are both of you using Windows?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please let me know,
>>>>>>>> Shoji
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> At Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:28:07 +0100,
>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Yuki,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, I've now been able to produce a TMX file.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I suppose you get errors like
>>>>>>>>>> java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find resource for bundle java.util.PropertyResourceBundle, key sakai.samigo.tool.title
>>>>>>>>> when the key is only in one file and not in the other. Am I right?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2012 17:46, Yuki Yamada wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using Benten for translation of Sakai. It seems that Benten does not have a function for generating the Translation Memory
>>>>>>>>>> (TMX). Therefore, I am doing as follows:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Download import_properties_1.4_1.zip from
>>>>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/files/Other%20-%20Utilities/Java%20.properties%20Import%201.4%20update%201/ . It is a tool
>>>>>>>>>> for generating TMX from .properties files.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Unpack it, and run as "java -jar properties-import.jar".
>>>>>>>>>> 3. A dialog will open. Choose the default bundle as EN-US, and choose the localization language which you'd like to localize to.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Choose the top folder of the Sakai sources which you checked out, and choose any folder to save TMX file.
>>>>>>>>>> 5. Push import button, and wait for a while. Then, TMX file will be generated.
>>>>>>>>>> 6. Move the TMX file to tmx folder of Benten. Check the preference from Window->Preferences->Translation->TM Preference->TMX
>>>>>>>>>> Location->Next Location on Benten. Now, the TMX can be used on Benten.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> Yuki Yamada
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jean-Francois Leveque"<jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>
>>>>>>>>>> To:<i18n at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:16 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WG: I18N&     L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been able to install and run Benten
>>>>>>>>>>> (http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/benten/) by myself with the project
>>>>>>>>>>> documentation and google translation.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> When I tried to set a project with all properties files of
>>>>>>>>>>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/sakai/branches/sakai-trunk-all, it
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't work. I then tried with the ones in its access subdirectory and
>>>>>>>>>>> it worked.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I've been able to work on translating the xliff files and export the
>>>>>>>>>>> translation results.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> One thing which I now need to learn is how to build and use the
>>>>>>>>>>> Translation Memory.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone help me with this, whether you know where the documentation
>>>>>>>>>>> is or you have Japanese skills and can help finding the information?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois