[WG: I18N & L10N] I18N & L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten

Wed Feb 22 06:03:17 PST 2012

Jean-Francois and Dooremont,

I have resolved the issue.

Now, you can download my eclipse's workspace for fr_FR from

  http://bit.ly/zGaRtm

and launch your eclipse (with Benten plug-ins) by using this
workspace.

French XLIFF files have been already translated by using Benten's
Exact-Match and Fuzzy-Match with French Translation Memory that I
generated using the current fr_FR.properties in trunk.

The translation unit that has green bg color is OK, but yellow bg
color indicates that you need to fix inconsistent translations.

Please let me know if you have further questions.

Enjoy!
Shoji at Kyoto

At Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:45:25 +0900,
Shoji Kajita wrote:
> 
> Jean-Francois,
> 
> Although I created French TM from the scratch, I found that Benten's
> Exact-Match and Fussy-Match does not work well for fr_FR.
> 
> I'm asking this issue for Benten devel list now.
> 
> Shoji
> 
> At Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:05:59 +0100,
> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Shoji,
> > 
> > I'm afraid the Import Translation Target part is not clear for me yet.
> > 
> > J-F
> > 
> > On 16/02/2012 11:01, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> > > Hi Jean-Francois,
> > >
> > > In the case of Linux, I think that Yuki's comments cover the
> > > topic. Although I haven't tried yet, Frederic has succeeded as far as
> > > I read his message.
> > >
> > > I hope I can generate scaffolding TMs for all languages, when I have
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Shoji at JFK
> > >
> > > At Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:13:57 +0100,
> > > Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Shoji,
> > >>
> > >> What I would like to see detailed is:
> > >> - Generate a scaffolding Translation Memory to get started
> > >> - Import Translation Target
> > >>
> > >> Jean-François
> > >>
> > >> On 15/02/2012 05:55, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> > >>> Hi Jean-Francois and Frederic,
> > >>>
> > >>> Here I attach the tentative document to use Benten for
> > >>> translation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
> > >>>
> > >>> Shoji at HolidayInn SEA-TAC
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:53:35 +0900,
> > >>> Shoji Kajita wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thank you for the informatin.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I will give you my best practice with same examples soon to get
> > >>>> started and improve your translation work using Benten. I hope it will
> > >>>> dramatically improve your translation quality for French.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Shoji at Bellevue, WA
> > >>>>
> > >>>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:48:53 +0100,
> > >>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Shoji, Yuki and Frederic,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I did the TMX generation using Linux.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> When does it fail for you on Mac OS X ?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I still don't understand how the TM part of Benten works. I naively
> > >>>>> thought a TMX file could directly be used by Benten.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Frederic and myself need the whole recipe for making new translations
> > >>>>> with help from the old ones.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> J-F
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 14/02/2012 06:03, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois and Yuki,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm now writing the instruciton to use Benten on Confuluence, but I
> > >>>>>> cannot generate TMX on Mac OS X based on Yuki's instruction.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Are both of you using Windows?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Please let me know,
> > >>>>>> Shoji
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> At Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:28:07 +0100,
> > >>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hi Yuki,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks, I've now been able to produce a TMX file.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I suppose you get errors like
> > >>>>>>>> java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find resource for bundle java.util.PropertyResourceBundle, key sakai.samigo.tool.title
> > >>>>>>> when the key is only in one file and not in the other. Am I right?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 17/01/2012 17:46, Yuki Yamada wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'm using Benten for translation of Sakai. It seems that Benten does not have a function for generating the Translation Memory
> > >>>>>>>> (TMX). Therefore, I am doing as follows:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> 1. Download import_properties_1.4_1.zip from
> > >>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/files/Other%20-%20Utilities/Java%20.properties%20Import%201.4%20update%201/ . It is a tool
> > >>>>>>>> for generating TMX from .properties files.
> > >>>>>>>> 2. Unpack it, and run as "java -jar properties-import.jar".
> > >>>>>>>> 3. A dialog will open. Choose the default bundle as EN-US, and choose the localization language which you'd like to localize to.
> > >>>>>>>> 4. Choose the top folder of the Sakai sources which you checked out, and choose any folder to save TMX file.
> > >>>>>>>> 5. Push import button, and wait for a while. Then, TMX file will be generated.
> > >>>>>>>> 6. Move the TMX file to tmx folder of Benten. Check the preference from Window->Preferences->Translation->TM Preference->TMX
> > >>>>>>>> Location->Next Location on Benten. Now, the TMX can be used on Benten.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>>>> Yuki Yamada
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>>>>> From: "Jean-Francois Leveque"<jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>
> > >>>>>>>> To:<i18n at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:16 PM
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [WG: I18N&     L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I've been able to install and run Benten
> > >>>>>>>>> (http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/benten/) by myself with the project
> > >>>>>>>>> documentation and google translation.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> When I tried to set a project with all properties files of
> > >>>>>>>>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/sakai/branches/sakai-trunk-all, it
> > >>>>>>>>> didn't work. I then tried with the ones in its access subdirectory and
> > >>>>>>>>> it worked.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I've been able to work on translating the xliff files and export the
> > >>>>>>>>> translation results.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> One thing which I now need to learn is how to build and use the
> > >>>>>>>>> Translation Memory.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Can someone help me with this, whether you know where the documentation
> > >>>>>>>>> is or you have Japanese skills and can help finding the information?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois
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