[WG: I18N & L10N] I18N & L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten

[Shoji Kajita]

Jean-Francois,

Although I created French TM from the scratch, I found that Benten's
Exact-Match and Fussy-Match does not work well for fr_FR.

I'm asking this issue for Benten devel list now.

Shoji

At Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:05:59 +0100,
Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> 
> Hi Shoji,
> 
> I'm afraid the Import Translation Target part is not clear for me yet.
> 
> J-F
> 
> On 16/02/2012 11:01, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> > Hi Jean-Francois,
> >
> > In the case of Linux, I think that Yuki's comments cover the
> > topic. Although I haven't tried yet, Frederic has succeeded as far as
> > I read his message.
> >
> > I hope I can generate scaffolding TMs for all languages, when I have
> > time.
> >
> > Shoji at JFK
> >
> > At Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:13:57 +0100,
> > Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Shoji,
> >>
> >> What I would like to see detailed is:
> >> - Generate a scaffolding Translation Memory to get started
> >> - Import Translation Target
> >>
> >> Jean-François
> >>
> >> On 15/02/2012 05:55, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> >>> Hi Jean-Francois and Frederic,
> >>>
> >>> Here I attach the tentative document to use Benten for
> >>> translation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
> >>>
> >>> Shoji at HolidayInn SEA-TAC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:53:35 +0900,
> >>> Shoji Kajita wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for the informatin.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will give you my best practice with same examples soon to get
> >>>> started and improve your translation work using Benten. I hope it will
> >>>> dramatically improve your translation quality for French.
> >>>>
> >>>> Shoji at Bellevue, WA
> >>>>
> >>>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:48:53 +0100,
> >>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Shoji, Yuki and Frederic,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I did the TMX generation using Linux.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When does it fail for you on Mac OS X ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I still don't understand how the TM part of Benten works. I naively
> >>>>> thought a TMX file could directly be used by Benten.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Frederic and myself need the whole recipe for making new translations
> >>>>> with help from the old ones.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> J-F
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 14/02/2012 06:03, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois and Yuki,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm now writing the instruciton to use Benten on Confuluence, but I
> >>>>>> cannot generate TMX on Mac OS X based on Yuki's instruction.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are both of you using Windows?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please let me know,
> >>>>>> Shoji
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:28:07 +0100,
> >>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Yuki,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks, I've now been able to produce a TMX file.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I suppose you get errors like
> >>>>>>>> java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find resource for bundle java.util.PropertyResourceBundle, key sakai.samigo.tool.title
> >>>>>>> when the key is only in one file and not in the other. Am I right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 17/01/2012 17:46, Yuki Yamada wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm using Benten for translation of Sakai. It seems that Benten does not have a function for generating the Translation Memory
> >>>>>>>> (TMX). Therefore, I am doing as follows:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1. Download import_properties_1.4_1.zip from
> >>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/files/Other%20-%20Utilities/Java%20.properties%20Import%201.4%20update%201/ . It is a tool
> >>>>>>>> for generating TMX from .properties files.
> >>>>>>>> 2. Unpack it, and run as "java -jar properties-import.jar".
> >>>>>>>> 3. A dialog will open. Choose the default bundle as EN-US, and choose the localization language which you'd like to localize to.
> >>>>>>>> 4. Choose the top folder of the Sakai sources which you checked out, and choose any folder to save TMX file.
> >>>>>>>> 5. Push import button, and wait for a while. Then, TMX file will be generated.
> >>>>>>>> 6. Move the TMX file to tmx folder of Benten. Check the preference from Window->Preferences->Translation->TM Preference->TMX
> >>>>>>>> Location->Next Location on Benten. Now, the TMX can be used on Benten.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>> Yuki Yamada
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>> From: "Jean-Francois Leveque"<jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>
> >>>>>>>> To:<i18n at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:16 PM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [WG: I18N&     L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've been able to install and run Benten
> >>>>>>>>> (http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/benten/) by myself with the project
> >>>>>>>>> documentation and google translation.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> When I tried to set a project with all properties files of
> >>>>>>>>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/sakai/branches/sakai-trunk-all, it
> >>>>>>>>> didn't work. I then tried with the ones in its access subdirectory and
> >>>>>>>>> it worked.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I've been able to work on translating the xliff files and export the
> >>>>>>>>> translation results.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> One thing which I now need to learn is how to build and use the
> >>>>>>>>> Translation Memory.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Can someone help me with this, whether you know where the documentation
> >>>>>>>>> is or you have Japanese skills and can help finding the information?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois