[WG: I18N & L10N] I18N & L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten

[Jean-Francois Leveque]

Hi Shoji,

I'm afraid the Import Translation Target part is not clear for me yet.

J-F

On 16/02/2012 11:01, Shoji Kajita wrote:
> Hi Jean-Francois,
>
> In the case of Linux, I think that Yuki's comments cover the
> topic. Although I haven't tried yet, Frederic has succeeded as far as
> I read his message.
>
> I hope I can generate scaffolding TMs for all languages, when I have
> time.
>
> Shoji at JFK
>
> At Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:13:57 +0100,
> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shoji,
>>
>> What I would like to see detailed is:
>> - Generate a scaffolding Translation Memory to get started
>> - Import Translation Target
>>
>> Jean-François
>>
>> On 15/02/2012 05:55, Shoji Kajita wrote:
>>> Hi Jean-Francois and Frederic,
>>>
>>> Here I attach the tentative document to use Benten for
>>> translation. Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>>
>>> Shoji at HolidayInn SEA-TAC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:53:35 +0900,
>>> Shoji Kajita wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the informatin.
>>>>
>>>> I will give you my best practice with same examples soon to get
>>>> started and improve your translation work using Benten. I hope it will
>>>> dramatically improve your translation quality for French.
>>>>
>>>> Shoji at Bellevue, WA
>>>>
>>>> At Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:48:53 +0100,
>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Shoji, Yuki and Frederic,
>>>>>
>>>>> I did the TMX generation using Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> When does it fail for you on Mac OS X ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I still don't understand how the TM part of Benten works. I naively
>>>>> thought a TMX file could directly be used by Benten.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frederic and myself need the whole recipe for making new translations
>>>>> with help from the old ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> J-F
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/02/2012 06:03, Shoji Kajita wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois and Yuki,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm now writing the instruciton to use Benten on Confuluence, but I
>>>>>> cannot generate TMX on Mac OS X based on Yuki's instruction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are both of you using Windows?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know,
>>>>>> Shoji
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At Wed, 18 Jan 2012 15:28:07 +0100,
>>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Yuki,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, I've now been able to produce a TMX file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose you get errors like
>>>>>>>> java.util.MissingResourceException: Can't find resource for bundle java.util.PropertyResourceBundle, key sakai.samigo.tool.title
>>>>>>> when the key is only in one file and not in the other. Am I right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Jean-Francois Leveque
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17/01/2012 17:46, Yuki Yamada wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Jean-Francois,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm using Benten for translation of Sakai. It seems that Benten does not have a function for generating the Translation Memory
>>>>>>>> (TMX). Therefore, I am doing as follows:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Download import_properties_1.4_1.zip from
>>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/files/Other%20-%20Utilities/Java%20.properties%20Import%201.4%20update%201/ . It is a tool
>>>>>>>> for generating TMX from .properties files.
>>>>>>>> 2. Unpack it, and run as "java -jar properties-import.jar".
>>>>>>>> 3. A dialog will open. Choose the default bundle as EN-US, and choose the localization language which you'd like to localize to.
>>>>>>>> 4. Choose the top folder of the Sakai sources which you checked out, and choose any folder to save TMX file.
>>>>>>>> 5. Push import button, and wait for a while. Then, TMX file will be generated.
>>>>>>>> 6. Move the TMX file to tmx folder of Benten. Check the preference from Window->Preferences->Translation->TM Preference->TMX
>>>>>>>> Location->Next Location on Benten. Now, the TMX can be used on Benten.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> Yuki Yamada
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Jean-Francois Leveque"<jean-francois.leveque at upmc.fr>
>>>>>>>> To:<i18n at collab.sakaiproject.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:16 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [WG: I18N&     L10N] First steps with i18n using Benten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been able to install and run Benten
>>>>>>>>> (http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/benten/) by myself with the project
>>>>>>>>> documentation and google translation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I tried to set a project with all properties files of
>>>>>>>>> https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/sakai/branches/sakai-trunk-all, it
>>>>>>>>> didn't work. I then tried with the ones in its access subdirectory and
>>>>>>>>> it worked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been able to work on translating the xliff files and export the
>>>>>>>>> translation results.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One thing which I now need to learn is how to build and use the
>>>>>>>>> Translation Memory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can someone help me with this, whether you know where the documentation
>>>>>>>>> is or you have Japanese skills and can help finding the information?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Francois