[WG: I18N & L10N] i18n BOF - stockholm

[Ray Davis]

I'm usually the second-to-last guy :) but I think it can be argued that 
extremely customizable open source projects like Sakai would be better 
off treating text strings as skinnable resources than as compiled source 
code.

Best,
Ray

On 5/6/2009 1:19 PM, John Bush wrote:
> well, this guy points out the same limitations I'm seeing:
> http://www.javapractices.com/topic/TopicAction.do?Id=208
> 
> and another thread on the topic:
> http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=360447&tstart=45
> 
> I'm usually the last guy to have the "not-built-here" mentality, but  
> for me resource bundles are very limiting.   Both spring and struts  
> developed alternatives because of these problems.
> 
> John Bush
> Development Manager
> rSmart
> 
> On May 6, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
> 
>> I was hoping that resourceloader would head the other direction. That
>> is, simply supplying a locale from sakai which I could then use with
>> my bundles. It seems like forcing systems to not use the standard
>> process of loading i18n strings from properties files would head even
>> further away from the industry standard than we already are. For Sakai
>> 3 compatible thinking, I would suggest not going this route.
>>
>> -AZ
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM, John Bush <john.bush at rsmart.com>  
>> wrote:
>>> This idea is probably somewhat dependent on SAK-12636, SAK-6886, but
>>> has anyone ever thought of providing an alternative implementation of
>>> ResourceLoader that would let you load the values from the database.
>>> I get requests from clients everyday who want to change the
>>> instructional text or other verbage.  I've often thought if the
>>> bundles could be loaded out of the db, then you could create an admin
>>> tool that would let you adjust the values for a locale at runtime.
>>> Has an idea like this every been brought up before?  I think its
>>> something we might start looking into.
>>>
>>> John Bush
>>> Development Manager
>>> rSmart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Beth Kirschner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Frank -- this is a good list of some of the more persistent
>>>> problems of the existing sakai architecture. More issues can be  
>>>> found
>>>> in confluence at http://confluence.sakaiproject.org/confluence/x/CkM
>>>>
>>>> With heavy heart, I wouldn't be able to attend the Boston Sakai
>>>> conference this July, but I have asked Anthony Whyte of the Sakai
>>>> Foundation to lead an Internationalization BOF. This would be a good
>>>> forum to continue the discussion on internationalization. I'll post
>>>> more details on this BOF as it becomes available.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> - Beth
>>>>
>>>> On May 6, 2009, at 8:24 AM, Benneker, W.F.M. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At the 2nd european sakai conference we had a great BOF identiyfing
>>>>> issues with i18n in Sakai 2.5/2.6. We also discussed how to getting
>>>>> some workflow out there to settle some of the issues in Sakai 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached is a photo with some of the issues disusses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank
>>>>> University of Amsterdam
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>>
>> -- 
>> Aaron Zeckoski (aaronz at vt.edu)
>> Senior Research Engineer - CARET - Cambridge University
>> [http://bugs.sakaiproject.org/confluence/display/~aaronz/]
>> Sakai Fellow - [http://aaronz-sakai.blogspot.com/]
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