[Contrib: Evaluation System] Changes to default behavior

[Sean DeMonner]

Hiding the links was really more of short-term response to a potentially dangerous situation in our Production environment which at times has 10000 or so evaluations loaded. We made a similar move to add a Hide/Show option for the Admin widget on the Summary page; otherwise that page becomes usable after a few hundred items.

Yes, paged lists throughout would be good :-)


SMD.



On May 5, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Lovemore Nalube wrote:

> Hi Sean
>  
> I see your point about long running requests/DB inefficiency. We sit with the same issue at UCT.
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> Instead of hiding links, the best solution here will be to have paged queries and rendering of the templates and evaluations lists. If we expose/extend the evaluation search function to these views, the better off we will be.
>  
> Any support on this move?
>  
> --
> Lovemore Nalube
> OLE Developer (Vula)
> University of Cape Town
> http://www.cet.uct.ac.za/LovemoreN
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> >>> On 5/5/2010 at 5:39 PM, in message <F2CFED1E-0166-4C64-B288-B4352ECDB5A3 at umich.edu>, Sean DeMonner <demonner at umich.edu> wrote:
> We added a control to hide these links because it is possible to inadvertently trigger very long running queries with an errant click when a large number of templates and/or evaluations are loaded.
> 
> I agree that the default OOTB setting should not be to hide the links, however. The default should be to have the links showing IMO.
> 
> SMD.
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> On May 3, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
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>> Fair enough, but not everyone (like myself) can make the conference calls.
>> 
>> Also, if there is a reason for hiding all this stuff by default then
>> please let me know what it is. I can understand someone might want to
>> hide most of the functionality for whatever reason but making that the
>> default seems like it would make for a very bad experience for admins
>> who install the tool and try to use it.
>> 
>> -AZ
>> 
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>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>> 
>>> I think that may be a feature I merged to trunk a few months after lots of discussion on the list and in open conference calls for which the agenda was well-publicized.  But I'm not sure how explicit the announcements were about what the default settings would be.  So if it was done without proper announcement, I'm sorry.
>>> 
>>> If it was my merge that changed the default behavior, I have no problem with changing it back.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 3, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I noticed that someone changed the default behavior of the evaluation
>>>> app (not naming names here). I think it would be better in the future
>>>> to not do that without at least sending a note out to the list first.
>>>> For now, I am planning to change the default behavior back to the way
>>>> it was.
>>>> 
>>>> In particular, I am referring to these 2 options in the admin config:
>>>> Show links to My Evaluations, My Templates, My Items, My Scales and My
>>>> Email Templates
>>>> Show the "Evaluations I am creating or administering" box
>>>> (Administrator widget) on the main screen
>>>> 
>>>> By default these are now both turned off which means a user who
>>>> downloads the tool and tries to use it will likely be confused that
>>>> they don't have the ability to access their evaluations through the
>>>> UI. This was also setup so the super admin is affected by these
>>>> settings as well which is inconsistent with the way most of the
>>>> permission based settings in the tool work (i.e. typically the super
>>>> admin is allowed to do anything even if the permissions and settings
>>>> do not allow it).
>>>> 
>>>> Please let me know if you disagree with changing this back to the way
>>>> it used to work but I would need a really good argument to convince me
>>>> that removing this by default is a good idea (especially for new
>>>> users).
>>>> 
>>>> -AZ
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> -- 
>> Aaron Zeckoski - Software Engineer - http://tinyurl.com/azprofile
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> SMD.
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