[Contrib: Evaluation System] Changes to default behavior

[Lovemore Nalube]

Hi Sean
 
I see your point about long running requests/DB inefficiency. We sit with the same issue at UCT. 
 
Instead of hiding links, the best solution here will be to have paged queries and rendering of the templates and evaluations lists. If we expose/extend the evaluation search function to these views, the better off we will be.
 
Any support on this move?
 
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Lovemore Nalube
OLE Developer (Vula)
University of Cape Town
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>>> On 5/5/2010 at 5:39 PM, in message <F2CFED1E-0166-4C64-B288-B4352ECDB5A3 at umich.edu>, Sean DeMonner <demonner at umich.edu> wrote:

We added a control to hide these links because it is possible to inadvertently trigger very long running queries with an errant click when a large number of templates and/or evaluations are loaded.

I agree that the default OOTB setting should not be to hide the links, however. The default should be to have the links showing IMO.

SMD.



On May 3, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:



Fair enough, but not everyone (like myself) can make the conference calls.

Also, if there is a reason for hiding all this stuff by default then
please let me know what it is. I can understand someone might want to
hide most of the functionality for whatever reason but making that the
default seems like it would make for a very bad experience for admins
who install the tool and try to use it.

-AZ


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Jim Eng <jimeng at umich.edu> wrote:


Hi Aaron,





I think that may be a feature I merged to trunk a few months after lots of discussion on the list and in open conference calls for which the agenda was well-publicized.  But I'm not sure how explicit the announcements were about what the default settings would be.  So if it was done without proper announcement, I'm sorry.





If it was my merge that changed the default behavior, I have no problem with changing it back.





Jim








On May 3, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Aaron Zeckoski wrote:







I noticed that someone changed the default behavior of the evaluation




app (not naming names here). I think it would be better in the future




to not do that without at least sending a note out to the list first.




For now, I am planning to change the default behavior back to the way




it was.









In particular, I am referring to these 2 options in the admin config:




Show links to My Evaluations, My Templates, My Items, My Scales and My




Email Templates




Show the "Evaluations I am creating or administering" box




(Administrator widget) on the main screen









By default these are now both turned off which means a user who




downloads the tool and tries to use it will likely be confused that




they don't have the ability to access their evaluations through the




UI. This was also setup so the super admin is affected by these




settings as well which is inconsistent with the way most of the




permission based settings in the tool work (i.e. typically the super




admin is allowed to do anything even if the permissions and settings




do not allow it).









Please let me know if you disagree with changing this back to the way




it used to work but I would need a really good argument to convince me




that removing this by default is a good idea (especially for new




users).









-AZ














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