[samigo-team] Using metadata for assessments

[Sam Ottenhoff]

Providing users the promise of a feature ("there are metadata fields, they
*must* be used in some sort of intelligent way by the software") seems
completely wrong to me.  Changing the label from "metadata" to "your tag"
or "your label" would make it more clear that this is data that is not
being used in any meaningful way.


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Jim Mezzanotte <jmezzanotte at rsmart.com>wrote:

> Thanks all for the feedback--Lynn, I hadn't thought of using the
> metadata for outcomes/reporting. I agree, we'll probably need to keep
> this if it's being used (somewhere), and the settings redesign will
> help ensure it's tucked away. Maybe we could also provide a contextual
> explanation--if only to say metadata is optional, and maybe emphasize
> it won't yield search results.
>
> Best,
> Jim Mezzanotte
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Ward, Lynn E. <leward at iu.edu> wrote:
> > A few years ago, I heard through the Sakai grapevine that one university
> had
> > built an outcomes alignment tool or feature that leverages the metadata
> in
> > Samigo.  Even though there is no user facing means of using this data,
> that
> > doesn't mean that schools aren't using it for reports or who knows what.
>  I
> > agree with Narasi—keep the functionality but tuck it away in a location
> that
> > won't be seen by most users.
> >
> > Lynn
> > ==========================
> >
> > Lynn Ward, Principal Systems Analyst
> >
> > Instructional Technology Systems and Services
> >
> > University Information Technology Services
> > Indiana University
> > Information Technology and Communications Complex (IT 342K)
> > 535 West Michigan Street, Indianapolis, IN 46202
> > Phone: 317-278-5713  E-mail: leward at iupui.edu
> >
> >
> > From: <Ramachandran>, "Ramachandran,Narasi" <rnarasi at ufl.edu>
> > Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:27 AM
> > To: Sam Ottenhoff <ottenhoff at longsight.com>, Jim Mezzanotte
> > <jmezzanotte at rsmart.com>
> > Cc: Samigo Team <samigo-team at collab.sakaiproject.org>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [samigo-team] Using metadata for assessments
> >
> > My 2 cents –
> >
> > Since this has been around for a while and there are some known cases
> where
> > it is being used (can this be as optional fields that is not visible in
> the
> > high visibility areas) and move it to a low visibility area that says
> > additional info in collapsed state.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Narasi
> >
> >
> >
> > From: samigo-team-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org
> > [mailto:samigo-team-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Sam
> > Ottenhoff
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:22 AM
> > To: Jim Mezzanotte
> > Cc: Samigo Team
> > Subject: Re: [samigo-team] Using metadata for assessments
> >
> >
> >
> > I brought up the issue of removing all mentions of metadata in Samigo a
> year
> > ago as the data is not used in any meaningful way.  It's not used in
> > searches, sorting, grouping, etc. My argument for removing all mentions
> of
> > metadata was that a) it is misleading and b) it clutters the interface.
> >
> >
> >
> > The only counter-example I received was Roger from IU who said he had one
> > professor who made heavy use of the metadata fields for keeping track of
> > pools.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would support removing all mention of metadata in Samigo and further
> > simplifying the interface.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Jim Mezzanotte <jmezzanotte at rsmart.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm curious about how you may be using metadata for assessments in
> > Tests & Quizzes (Samigo). The documentation says "specify the
> > keywords, objective, and/or rubrics to be used for searches and for
> > categorizing this assessment."
> >
> > My search testing isn't bringing up any results via metadata. And,
> > making an assessment searchable seems problematic, since I'm assuming
> > you may not want students searching for assessments. I'm also not sure
> > how the categorization would work. Thanks in advance for use cases,
> > explanations--
> >
> > Best,
> > Jim Mezzanotte
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