[sakai2-tcc] Topic for networking - Sakai CLE and OAE?

[Neal Caidin]

Hi Nicolaas,

Thanks for your input. Fwiw - we have designated OAE as one topic from which people can choose during the Network Cafe, but did not tie it to the CLE or any specific question. We will also have about 1/2 the tables available as open forum. You can write your own topic for the table. 

I understand the potential sensitivity of how a topic like this might be brought up, and I trust that you and the OAE team will find the right opportunities to broach the subject. If there is any way I can help, let me know.

See you in a couple of weeks!

Cheers,
Neal

On May 17, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Nicolaas Matthijs <nicolaas.matthijs at caret.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Neal,
> 
> Thanks for reaching out. I would very much welcome a discussion on how CLE and OAE might complement each other. I hope it can be the start of the creation of a higher level picture and message that can then be carried out in a consistent way across projects, reducing some of the remaining confusing and hopefully making both projects stronger.
> 
> I'm aware that the OAE project has unfortunately blown up a lot of bridges with the CLE in the past and am aware of the damage this has caused. Because of that, the projects have not properly spoken to each other in a long time. Given the more narrow and different focus of OAE these days, as well as the different way in which the project is run, I think and hope that this conference is actually a really good time to re-connect and start thinking about scenarios in which we can complement each other.
> 
> During the conference, we will be trying very hard to send a clear message to the community on how OAE is not trying to be a replacement for CLE and what its focus is. Interestingly enough, some thinking and discussion around how CLE and OAE can complement each is already starting to happen in a few places in Europe.
> 
> Because of the preliminary nature of the conversation, I would also prefer an informal context, if only not to send out the wrong signals to the wider community. I can also see why Anthony suggested a bar, as he knows he has a number of drinks coming his way as well :).
> 
>>>> It is three round robins of discussions, about 20 minutes per discussion. Not enough for a substantial discussion, but hopefully enough to do a bit of networking, meet new folks with some common interests so that follow up during the conference and beyond are possible. Please let me know if you have any topic ideas for OAE.
> 
> I am interested in an OAE discussion slot, but would like to drive it by what the people at the conference would like to talk about, so maybe trying to determine the topic during the conference might be better for us.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Nicolaas
> 
> 
> On 14 May 2013, at 00:32, Anthony Whyte wrote:
> 
>> I'd prefer a less formal context for any such conversation, one that includes a long bar, taps and choice ales.  This would render trivial my plan to buy a round of pints for my old OAE mates.  :)  
>> 
>>> to send the message that OAE is not a successor to CLE but something that has a different purpose
>> 
>> 
>> Besides, I consider the above message overly proscriptive.  For some institutions, OAE may well supplant the CLE as time goes on and additional services are added to it.  No harm done in such a scenario--except perhaps to the marketing message--and actually a pretty cool outcome for those schools who might choose OAE over the CLE.  After all, it means schools stay engaged with Apereo.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anth
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 13, 2013, at 1:29 PM, Neal Caidin wrote:
>> 
>>> Interesting. That is the same reason I thought it might be a good idea, to send the message that OAE is not a successor to CLE but something that has a different purpose and could work with it. So, we have the same thought, but different strategy.
>>> 
>>> -- Neal
>>> 
>>> On May 13, 2013, at 4:03 PM, "May, Megan Marie" <mmmay at indiana.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I do not think that is a good idea.    For a long time many people in the community have thought of OAE as the successor to the CLE.  I think conversations like the one proposed might confuse people 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org [mailto:sakai2-tcc-bounces at collab.sakaiproject.org] On Behalf Of Neal Caidin
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:44 PM
>>>> To: Nicolaas Matthijs; sakai2-tcc at collab.sakaiproject.org Committee
>>>> Subject: [sakai2-tcc] Topic for networking - Sakai CLE and OAE?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi TCC an Nico,
>>>> 
>>>> Do you think there will be any interest in the Networking Cafe for a discussion about how CLE and OAE might complement each other and grow together over time?
>>>> 
>>>> ----------
>>>> Nico,
>>>> 
>>>> On Monday afternoon there is an event called the Networking Café. It is three round robins of discussions, about 20 minutes per discussion. Not enough for a substantial discussion, but hopefully enough to do a bit of networking, meet new folks with some common interests so that follow up during the conference and beyond are possible. Please let me know if you have any topic ideas for OAE. (alternatively there is space to make them up at the event itself!).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Neal
>>>> 
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