[sakai2-tcc] Hybrid mode: SAK-23285

[Steve Swinsburg]

You've deleted the sakai artifacts from your local repo so then you will
need the source if you expect the build to succeed. So its impossible to
have an offline build work unless you have the source for everything you
need to build. So the hybrid issue needs to be either removed or source
added to resolve this.

Though this was one of the goal of indies, that you didnt need the source.
And before the -all branches you wouldn't have been able to do what you are
doing since a lot of projects existing in the repo only.

As for depending on snapshots, this is fraught with instability anyway
since you dont know if something will break. If we move to a different
release method where we don't need RC's and the branch is in a constantly
releasable state (as discussed a few days ago), then we will need to have
the branch depending on stable versions only.

This is the case in 2.8.x where only stable versions were declared:
https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/branches/sakai-2.8.x/pom.xml

but in 2.9.x snapshot versions were introduced:
https://source.sakaiproject.org/svn/master/branches/sakai-2.9.x/pom.xml





On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Steve Swinsburg
> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Where did you get snapshot from? There are stable released artifacts in
> both
> > central and the Sakai maven repo.
>
> Checkout the 2.9.x branch.
> Referring to SNAPSHOTS in our code which is built is sorta our
> community practice for .x branches but referring to SNAPSHOTS of
> unbuilt code (which is what is happening here) is a poor practice.
>
> -AZ
>
>
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Aaron Zeckoski <azeckoski at unicon.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't think a snapshot version of hybrid is equivalent to a released
> >> version of a widely used apache library. I don't think they are even
> >> comparable really.
> >> My point was really that this is inconsistent with how the rest of the
> >> code is built and could cause issues (much like the search thing I
> >> fixed last week where search had code that was no longer being built
> >> and the artifacts were only being downloaded from the sakai maven
> >> repo).
> >>
> >> -AZ
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Steve Swinsburg
> >> <steve.swinsburg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Commented in the Jira:
> >> >
> >> > Is Hybrid still useful?
> >> >
> >> > Hybrid is in the maven repositories so a full online build should pull
> >> > in
> >> > the artifacts locally and an offline build will then use them, just
> like
> >> > any
> >> > other external library that isnt in the build (eg commons lang). So
> >> > there
> >> > shouldnt be an issue with offline builds.
> >> > http://central.maven.org/maven2/org/sakaiproject/hybrid/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Berg, Alan <A.M.Berg at uva.nl> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> Every few weeks a group of volunteers review a groups of Jira's. This
> >> >> helps with the flow of  development.
> >> >>
> >> >> Currently, I am reviewing
> >> >> https://jira.sakaiproject.org/browse/SAK-23285.
> >> >> Aaron has pointed out that there is a dependency in Sakai to the
> hybrid
> >> >> mode
> >> >> of Sakai OAE. This makes an offline build of Sakai impossible.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cutting out the hybrid dependency looks like a policy decision is
> >> >> needed
> >> >> from the TCC. In fact, I am sure we have discussed this in the past.
> >> >> How
> >> >> would you like this bug report to proceed?
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>            Alan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Alan Berg
> >> >>
> >> >> Innovation working group
> >> >> On the use of ICT in Education & Research
> >> >> University of Amsterdam
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